I has a confession. [rant]

[LivePsy]

I'm not impressed by the "user experience" new PC's inflict on you either. There was a range of Vaio notebooks a few years ago when Vista was very new, which needed to get updates off the Vaio site but the site crashed Internet Explorer. It was a catch 22: you really needed the updates but your brand new notebook wouldn't download them.

The problem with pop up assistants is the number of times I have seen really important things (Windows updates) get ignored and yet users happily click on the stupidest things. No wait, that should be "stupid users happily click in things".

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[TheHobbit]

Well I've got both and to be honest I use the PC 99% of the time.

Reasons :

I know Windows.
I have plenty of software for windows which I use and cannot get for Mac
I ended up bootcamping mac with XP ... back to PC
Mac does not have enough driver support for various bits of kit I have
Mac does not have enough driver support when windows is installed.
My PC doesnt crash
My Mac doesnt crash
OSX has a lot of audio features built in
XP has a lot of audio available.
MACS are feking expensive for what they are
PCS are cheaper and easy to maintain
Macs are for egocentric twee people who like things to look pretty (take a look at the general consumer/punter in your local Apple Store - enough said).
Mac users say they can never get a virus cause theyre not wirtten for Macs.
PC users have to use Antivirus due to XP being vunerable and having a registry.
PCS users know when their PCs being hacked/trojan cause their antivirus tells them....
Mac users think its amazing when their mouse does things on their own and takes money from their bank accounts when doing online banking.
MAC has very poor VST plugin support or availibility more choice on PC.
My mrs can find my pron on the mac...
My mrs cant find my pron on the PC.

Apart from that...not much in it really!

[LivePsy]

Smugness - the most irritating part of the zealotry. Any straight out lie can be carried out elegantly with the right amount of smugness.

VST support - I am warming to Apple's approach that they darn well wrote the OS, so they are going to darn well write the audio plugin standard too. Forget everything you know, get Logic Studio and see how well plugins can be handled. If a plugin writer won't write an AU version of your favourite thing, they probably aren't writing good quality code either. Too much bedroom code and free VST's out there in the PC world. Also forget WAV files because you can only use it on a Mac so might as well go for AIFF

Personally, my income comes from using PC's and fixing problems caused by humans on PCs. In fact I never see or use another's computer if it doesn't have a problem. So I would rather have a Mac to persue my hobby thank you.

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[teethofgold]

Originally Posted by annikk.exe

There is a great deal of Bloatware for PCs. I am not sure if it's the same for Macs, but a brand new Dell PC generally takes between 1 and 2 hours to completely clean of all the unnecessary crap.

I'm still not 100% sure why Dell and other manufacturers do this. If I'm buying a computer from a manufacturer I'd be perfectly happy with them simply pre-installing windows. I really don't need 50 free games and some crappy multimedia software that duplicates functions already present in applications that come free with Windows anyway.

I especially don't need a hidden update tool that automatically downloads new bloatware and updates to the existing stuff without my knowledge or consent. Especially not when it tracks and stores usage data and sends it to a mysterious central server.....
AOL and Creative Labs are the worst for this kind of maliciousness.



-Annikk

the reasons they include this software is that they get a kickback from the company if you upgrade to the full version.

[teethofgold]

regarding this entire thread... PCs are great for people who want to f*ck around with their computers as a part of their music making experience. me? I f*ck with computers and software all day... so when I want to make music... I want my computer to be transparent and focus on making the sounds. this works well for me on my mac.

your mileage may vary... but good luck driving a PC if you're not a mechanic!

[Berni]

its easy to hate...harder to love...
Can anybody get the RTAS VC OS3 working reliably on any platform?

[7G]

Well, things are simple....

Get yourself a PC desktop and a Mac Laptop to have the best of both worlds...
Why's that?

Desktops:

PC:If i want to upgarde my desktop i would change only motherboard,proccesor and memory.
Mac:You have to sell the godamn thing

Laptops:

PC:The issue here is built quality.Most PC laptops have shitty quality
Mac:Excellent quality and design-i really like the lightning apple on a dark club...you f#$%g poser..hehehe

[annikk.exe]

To be fair, +1 on that.
I don't buy laptops because I hate Macs and it's excessively difficult to build your own (PC-based) laptop.

I r mechanic. =)


-Annikk

[JordanNaumov]

Originally Posted by logo80

the difference between a mac user and a pc user is: a pc user HATE mac users, a mac user can understand the frustration of a pc user so he can't hate him... eheheh I agree that the marketing is awful, but as an ex pc user I simply I won't go back to MS world until they product will work.

Couldn't of said it better......

[LivePsy]

Originally Posted by 7G

Laptops:

PC:The issue here is built quality.Most PC laptops have shitty quality
Mac:Excellent quality and design-i really like the lightning apple on a dark club...you f#$%g poser..hehehe

I agree with the Mac comments. Poser or not, I bought a Macbook Pro not a Mac if you know what I mean. The notebooks are built and perform very well. I didn't buy it for the OS.

How many posers cover the Apple logo with gaffa tape? And how many posers cover a Roland logo with gaffa tape? Yeah, you're right, its embarassing to be seen with a Roland

Cheers,
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