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04.05.2009, 07:38 AM
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Well, things are simple....
Get yourself a PC desktop and a Mac Laptop to have the best of both worlds...
Why's that?
Desktops:
PC:If i want to upgarde my desktop i would change only motherboard,proccesor and memory.
Mac:You have to sell the godamn thing
Laptops:
PC:The issue here is built quality.Most PC laptops have shitty quality
Mac:Excellent quality and design-i really like the lightning apple on a dark club...you f#$%g poser..hehehe 
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04.05.2009, 08:24 AM
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To be fair, +1 on that.
I don't buy laptops because I hate Macs and it's excessively difficult to build your own (PC-based) laptop.
I r mechanic. =)
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10.05.2009, 10:37 PM
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Laptops:
PC:The issue here is built quality.Most PC laptops have shitty quality
Mac:Excellent quality and design-i really like the lightning apple on a dark club...you f#$%g poser..hehehe 
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I agree with the Mac comments. Poser or not, I bought a Macbook Pro not a Mac if you know what I mean. The notebooks are built and perform very well. I didn't buy it for the OS.
How many posers cover the Apple logo with gaffa tape? And how many posers cover a Roland logo with gaffa tape? Yeah, you're right, its embarassing to be seen with a Roland
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07.06.2009, 10:10 AM
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The only people in this thread who completely missing the point, are the ones who still can't understand why couple of years ago "PC vs Mac" arguments became more irrelevant and pointless than ever before. Hint: It's not "Apples vs Oranges" anymore, it's "Oranges vs Oranges" now.
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07.06.2009, 02:31 PM
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The only people in this thread who completely missing the point, are the ones who still can't understand why couple of years ago "PC vs Mac" arguments became more irrelevant and pointless than ever before. Hint: It's not "Apples vs Oranges" anymore, it's "Oranges vs Oranges" now.
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that's not true... as one is an integrated platform (hardware/software) and the other is software that is meant to run on a million hardware configurations.
with apple you pay a premium for a more streamlined user experience and increased reliability... with PCs you are able to take advantage of a highly competitive market to get excellent prices and magnitudes more software choices... but there are drawbacks as well... such as conflicts, viruses, and general complexity in the system.
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07.06.2009, 03:42 PM
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Hey Annik. If you hate the fact you cant build a Mac how you want it, or teak it................ thats not true.
I love my Hackintosh. Dual boots windows 7, and OSX 10.5.7
And I can overclock, watercool, bla bla bla. Does everything I want. The problem is ME
It is ME, that always wants something new (Gear Lust), it is ME that spends so much money, but not enough time. I dont write enough music, just cant spend more than 30 mins without getting bored lately.
Fuck this I hate MAC, or I hate PC. I HATE ME !
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07.06.2009, 08:15 PM
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that's not true... as one is an integrated platform (hardware/software) and the other is software that is meant to run on a million hardware configurations.
with apple you pay a premium for a more streamlined user experience and increased reliability... with PCs you are able to take advantage of a highly competitive market to get excellent prices and magnitudes more software choices... but there are drawbacks as well... such as conflicts, viruses, and general complexity in the system.
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There's no integrated platform bullshit or anything, because this is not OS9 anymore this is Unix. Today you can run Win on a Mac as easily as you can run OSX on a PC, technically Apple just selling you regular PC's with a shiny Apple logo on them. If you open your "Mac" to take a look if i'm right or wrong - you'll be very disappointed to find regular average PC components inside, and not of the best quality btw (except two models only: Mac Pro and MacBook Pro) because they're the only ones that built from PC components slightly above the average. Shortly, Apple selling ridiculously overpriced PC computers and people are afraid to realize this because of how embarrassing it is for a mac zealot to find out something like this. Some Mac users have already figured this out, so now they're embarrassed to admit it or even believe what they saw. This is amazingly hilarious, and the funniest thing that there's nothing really new about this and it's been like that for couple of years already.
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08.06.2009, 12:31 AM
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This is amazingly hilarious, and the funniest thing that there's nothing really new about this and it's been like that for couple of years already.
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Yes very funny. Unfortunately for me, I viewed the Macbook Pro as the best hardware platform out there - not on price but on a mix of features (the utilmate spec for every component isn't always the best). And while I was at it I also chose to use OS X for music in the studio instead of XP and Vista around the rest of the house. So of course I am branded as an idiot and constantly laughed at.
Its not quite as black and white as pc=smart, Mac=stupid. The price is an interesting issue. All PC's would be priced around Mac prices if it wasn't for the intense competition. But this competition doesn't give you cheaper computers, they give you less and pretend its a workable computer. Not enough ram, you've-got-to-be-kidding low notebook cpu power, machines which take 10 minutes to boot. You really have to spend close to a macbook pro to get sensible power. Personally the only notebook to have these days is the latest Vaio GW series, second choise could be Macbook Pro. IMO all others are crippled to a price point.
Oops, got a bit more carried away then I expected.
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Personally the only notebook to have these days is the latest Vaio GW series
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Vaio FW? Bought one and sent it back. Fantastic computer, cool, quiet, very fast, but I didn't get on with the display (for graphic editing). It was the 720p "eco" display, though. Could've got it with the better display but the resolution would've been way too high for me. A very plastic-y notebook, though. The power cord connection didn't inspire confidence.
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No, it's all interesting. After sending the Vaio back, I was looking at the Macbook Pros. Very expensive though, and would prefer a matte screen (which they don't offer, unless you get the 17" model).
Another thing I disliked about the Vaio was the new 16:9 LCD display ratio that laptop manufacturers are using now. Too wide, and too short. Apparently 16:10 is being completed phased out this next year. 
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08.06.2009, 01:48 AM
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Yes very funny. Unfortunately for me, I viewed the Macbook Pro as the best hardware platform out there - not on price but on a mix of features (the utilmate spec for every component isn't always the best). And while I was at it I also chose to use OS X for music in the studio instead of XP and Vista around the rest of the house. So of course I am branded as an idiot and constantly laughed at.B
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MacBook Pro is quite good actually, imho it's one of the best laptops on the market right now, alongside with IBM ThinkPads that i also rate quite highly because of how badass they are in basically every aspect. I also chose OSX for anything music and graphic design related, it's much more superior and user friendly than what Microsoft has to offer at the moment. Does it means I'm also an idiot?
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Its not quite as black and white as pc=smart, Mac=stupid. The price is an interesting issue. All PC's would be priced around Mac prices if it wasn't for the intense competition. But this competition doesn't give you cheaper computers, they give you less and pretend its a workable computer. Not enough ram, you've-got-to-be-kidding low notebook cpu power, machines which take 10 minutes to boot. You really have to spend close to a macbook pro to get sensible power. Personally the only notebook to have these days is the latest Vaio GW series, second choise could be Macbook Pro. IMO all others are crippled to a price point.
Oops, got a bit more carried away then I expected.
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Of course if you'll bother reading my previous post you'll immediately find out that i said: "the only exceptions are MacBook Pro and Mac Pro", all their other computers are a waste of money. If you ever opened a Mac, you could see that most macs are built from very cheap low-grade components, the complete opposite to what macfans tend to blindly believe. I remember seeing an iMac with one of the shittiest intel mobos inside, if i build my own computer i would never use this mobo in my machine as long as there are so many better alternatives. Totally agree with Timo regarding matte screens, can't stand those glossy screens tbh, especially in my office environment.
Seriously, I find it quite hard to believe that Mac fanboys still can't accept the fact that Apple has started manufacturing regular PC's couple of years ago. They can't be serious, it's surely a pisstake.
P.S. This post may look a little bit messy and disorientated because I'm very drunk at the moment, sorry for inconvenience.
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