Ramones punks founder Tommy dies

[Berni]

Also who the fuck said the pistols where influenced in any way by the ramones???? Obviously people who have cabbage's for ears. Not only do they not sound anything like them but Lydon would probably spit in your face for suggesting such a thing. OK rant over...I feel better now

[Berni]

One more thing...the ramones inducted into the 'rock & roll hall of fame'
The Pistols told them to piss off when they where invited...now thats real Punk rock

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by Berni

Also who the fuck said the pistols where influenced in any way by the ramones???? Obviously people who have cabbage's for ears. Not only do they not sound anything like them but Lydon would probably spit in your face for suggesting such a thing. OK rant over...I feel better now

Well I can't speak for others or for the Sex Pistols, I just said a lot of bands have cited them as an influence. All the heroin in the world couldn't muster the balls in Lydon's scrawny body to spit in my face, and if he did solid food would no longer be an option for him going forward Not that it would damage his singing ability mind you, because he never had that to begin with. lol

I will say though, when I hear a song like "I Wanna Be Sedated", I can see the impact that the Ramones had on a lot of skater-rock type bands. It's a lot harder for me to say the same about the Sex Pistols, but then again I was never a huge fan of punk. Maybe bands like "X" remind me of the Sex Pistols more than the Ramones just because of out of tune singing.

[Berni]

Lol, both bands where formed at the same time in the mid 70's so I very much doubt either one influenced the other. Certainly don't sound anything like each other. No internet or social media in those days & just trying to make it as an indie band in your own country was hard enough, let alone crossing the pond without major label help. It has to be said the Pistols where way more commercially successful however & influenced a slew of punk bands across the globe. While the ramones wanted to be 'sedated' the pistols wanted 'anarchy'...
Personally I would take the anarchist's over the glue sniffing heroin addicts any day Oh wait a minute didn't Sid Vicious die of a smack overdose, I guess that makes them even on the heroin overdose death's at least Lol!
Did the Ramones invent Punk? Of course not, they didn't even come close.

On 23 April 1976 the debut album by the leading punk rock band in the New York scene, the Ramones, was released. Though it is regarded as seminal to the growth of punk rock in England and elsewhere, Lydon has repeatedly rejected any suggestion that it influenced the Sex Pistols: "[The Ramones] were all long-haired and of no interest to me. I didn't like their image, what they stood for, or anything about them";[56] "They were hilarious but you can only go so far with 'duh-dur-dur-duh'. I've heard it. Next. Move on