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Old 23.05.2014, 12:49 AM
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It could explain it. In theory there's a lot going on at once: during a real time exporting of a full track there's a huge cpu load; certainly hope this isn't what the OP is doing - 'cause that's just pushing your luck imo. The thing is: if using the usb for audio streaming and the usb connection is also taking care of the TI thing, where Midi in and out is an open route (if you will), then this gets busy. At the same time, if the cpu is struggling to keep the pace - and that's a common thing considering there might be a lot of latency inducing plug-ins (heavy duty dsp processing can be a cpu hog, as I'm sure you know better then I do); to my mind all of these things together can induce cpu spikes, in which case the added latency could originate this kind of thing.

In most common situations (where one isn't pushing his luck), missing voices is just "note steal" due to DSP overload on the synth. It's got it's own mixer, you can solo the parts, you can record one track at a time in solo, making sure both system resources and the Virus is free from unnecessary struggle and performs as expected. This is, or rather should be, common practice and best way to avoid issues - even timing issues with all types of hardware synths, where latency is always a factor to have in mind. Some ms is ok (sometimes a little bit off the grid doesn't hurt), you can compensate it with sample delay function (many times included on the channels themselves, otherwise as plug-ins, few times the host can compensate the latency and align with the midi).

What matters is to get a routine that works and stick to it and focus on the music, really.
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Old 23.05.2014, 11:18 AM
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Hello people, I am very happy that my question has ignited a discussion so exhaustive, and I wold to thank each one.

I understood that to make an audio track for each midi track is the best way, so I will do this way. Following an answer from the Access support:

Dear Luigi,
No, the Virus does not operate differently when creating the audio file via the "audio mixdown" function. I monitor the output of Cubase during a realtime export, so I hear if anything goes wrong already during this process. Are you doing the same?
Also does this already go wrong if you do a test and simply solo the TI tracks and then create an audio file out of this? (by "printing an audio file" I literally mean creating an audio file with the audio mixdown function or whatever process a music software provides for this).


As you can see doing an audio track each midi track is also suggested by them.
Probabily the Virus TI2 does not suffer of this issue (maybe it can play the tracks simultaneously during the mixdown without matters).
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Old 23.05.2014, 02:28 PM
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As you can see doing an audio track each midi track is also suggested by them. Probabily the Virus TI2 does not suffer of this issue (maybe it can play the tracks simultaneously during the mixdown without matters).
Let us know how it goes. As I mentioned I ended up needing to do this with the Ultranova editor anyway, because otherwise the output just goes to Stereo Out and you have limited mixer options that way (including not being able to control audio/pan of that track independently aside from whatever features the VST plugin provides). I wasn't sure how much has changed between Cubase 6 & 7.5 because supposedly the mixer was a ground-up rewrite in 7.0. It was very different the last time I worked with the TI plug-in, because at that time, I only tried it in FLStudio which treats instruments and mixer tracks as two very separate things which do not necessarily have a 1:1 mapping (or in the case of external hardware, a 1:2 mapping with an instrument track for midi and mix track for audio). That felt a little cumbersome at first to me in Cubase but it really does give you a lot more flexibility once you get used to it.
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