Anybody here Producing Tech House or Minimal ??

[TweakHead]

Well, blaming the 4 on 4 time signature, is liking blaming grammar for bad writing.

And there's tons more to it! like syncopation and swing for example.

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by TweakHead

Well, blaming the 4 on 4 time signature, is liking blaming grammar for bad writing.

And there's tons more to it! like syncopation and swing for example.

yep, true.... depends on what "it" is, but one thing for sure, there is definitely, and usually, more to everything.. hehe.

I mostly said what I did about four on the floor with regard to EDM. That's just because lounge music for sitting back and chilling with friends and club music for getting on the dance floor and burning through energy are two entirely different things, and most clubs I'm aware of that aren't a hole in the wall and drive large crowds would have trouble surviving if they introduce "swing" into the beat. Most people don't want to be out there doing the irish foot shuffle leprechaun dance

But it doesn't mean I want an intense throbbing dance beat all the time. Honestly sometimes what I listen to on a weekend night during while at a club or even screwing is not necessarily the same thing I want to listen to Monday morning on the way to a meeting at a client site. Things sound different with alcohol. If I went down a list of the bands that are in my own opinion and mind the greatest in the history of music, only a couple of synth bands would even make it into the top ten, and none of them are really what anyone would call EDM.

As far as Skrillex, I admire anyone that is truly good at what they do, even if I don't like what they do. My problem with dubstep is that it is a genre born from pasting clips together like in Live, which comes across sounding more like a random paste-fest of sound bytes than it does a musical composition. Sonny is kind of snarky little geekturd that can't even read sheet music, but I respect his ability to draw a crowd. Nobody will know who he is 15 years from now, but that's true of all these little Justin Beebers wet behind the ears artists. The true talent got sucked out of music the moment it became freely available online via the interwebs, and there's not much new to see. Its just the reality of the situation these days.

[namnibor]

You said "geekturd", and about blew espresso all over my lappy!

That "EDM/Live pasting snipets together sound" [paraphrasing] had been my impasse in trying to connect properly with *anyone* on the Elektron Forum in specific to the Analog Four, which has great potential for the atmospheric drones and such I am working on as well as ambient/chill.

However, I hate to sound like an ass (probably way too late for that), but ALMOST ALL **so-called user's music** sounds so much alike with absolutely NO SONG STRUCTURE to where it's *nowhere near* being the 'Berlin School' type of synth music I make my own take on. Rather, it's maniacal snip-its all chained somewhat together and through chaotic repetition (nowhere NEAR in a Tangerine Dream way, in which I admire and like), it makes me wonder if as seen on this forum quite a few times of recent, people becoming incredibly lazy in making music, let alone in programming and learning TO PROGRAM their instruments??!

I will not resolve to saying I am just older...no, there's more CRAP-tastic music out there that I personally find unlistenable but it does not mean I think all those are without talent entirely; just a bit "me too mentality" compilers of clips and samples.

With that said, there IS something admirable about an improvisation process but I guess as they say, "it's just my opinion, and everyone has one".
Perhaps what I am wondering is if there's a lot of people that forgo practice makes perfect, acquired skills, and music theory? Glad to hear other thoughts on this.

[Berni]

Looks like this one went side ways...AGAIN! Lol.

[namnibor]

Originally Posted by Berni

Looks like this one went side ways...AGAIN! Lol.

Says the gentleman NOT enjoying my 6 F on a good day Hope you are enjoying plenty of Raves down in your island-ish weather, and it's whatever genre that makes you and crowds very happy!

Sideways is the way I 'roll'!

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by namnibor

Perhaps what I am wondering is if there's a lot of people that forgo practice makes perfect, acquired skills, and music theory? Glad to hear other thoughts on this.

I don't know, there are certain types of music where music theory doesn't help, while practice always helps whatever we do, musical or non-musical.

It's not that I believe Skrillex or whoever are skill-less (as coincidentally as a pun might tend to arise from that sentence). I would actually shake the kid's hand and congratulate him if I ever met him, because he is basically credited with inventing a musical genre, something that not too many folks can claim -- it's just that I believe that particular genre is more technical in nature than musical, and if we are in the business of admiring technical skills then the best music producers in the world start to look less impressive up against a mediocre, run of the mill software developer. For me to enjoy their music is a whole different beast, they don't need to create a new genre for that.

However, this thread got me thinking over the last two days. I was trying to identify any musical band or artist that has been formed in recent years that actually got my attention, motivated me to listen to the product of their labor. I really can't think of one in recent years that caught my ear. At first I thought of MGMT, because I thought some of their tunes were decent, but it turns out they were actually formed in 2002, which is just a couple of years before the industry started really imploding. You can see where I'm headed with that -- a talent vacuum stemming from Internet sharing. I'm not talking about decent music emerging from already established bands, I'm looking for examples of bands/artists that were formed after say 2006 or so that are worth listening to. Thoughts?

[namnibor]

I am not usually much of a fan of Country Music genre but I *was* pleasantly surprised from a new band I saw last year that appeared and played on David Letterman Show, and is two brothers and their sister, "The Band Perry", insomuch I ordered the CD from Amazon before retiring for night.
it may not be a synth-based band but they play just about every old world acoustic instrument you can think of and the music is damn great. However, I am as well empty of suggestions of newer bands other than this and what's cool is it helped open my mind to that genre, even though I DO realize The Band Perry cross the lines of Pop and Country. here you go:

Live version of first song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWw4wQ1MEtQ

Studio/Video of same song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIdCo_QAz_E

Different song, showing diversity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NJqUN9TClM