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Old 03.02.2013, 11:03 AM
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There WAS a NAMM video demo of the MS20 using an MP3 player as input/external sig in and cannot seem to find that video right now but it was pretty amazing how it responded to audio alone.
Just rec'vd. an email back from Waldorf in my blatant quest for sound demos possibly soon of their anticipated Pulse 2 in which they curtly stated, "We will make some audio examples when the Pulse 2 is in a state where we can
take samples " I wrapped that request in a thankyou for directing me last month in where in the USA I could obtain preformatted Q-cards for Q-rack .
Speaking of which and the tuning inherent with the Virus emulating characteristics of analog--the Waldorf Q engine has a similar tuning that actually can be altered globally or per voice/program from zero to 100% and called "The HMT function", in which the tuning is not static, but rather dynamic and adjusts depending on content and say for instance, chord structure, whether it is a Major/Minor, a third, fifth, and so on. It even shows a setting to ensure you send these settings to other instruments via midi...I am of course just touching tip of deep iceberg of learning curve of the Q and is very interestingly scientific in explainations in the manual to where you can tell a person that is BOTH a musician and engineer wrote/designed/programmed this beast. Thought I'd share this since on the tuning fork--so-to-speak! Ha!
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Just talked with my Sweetwater Rep and learned something new about the MS20 and was directed to product description as to have something to copy/paste here, which will follow.
Although this IS a faithful reproduction, yet 86% of orig. in size, Korg used digital stabilization on the ANALOG osc's, which is kind of coy marketing jargon to be sure to cause rehash of the grand ol' debate between VCO/DCO--with both being true analog, just the DCO is digitally stabilized for tuning purposes only. here's a direct copy of brief description from Sweetwater dot com's product page:
A Legendary Synthesizer Reborn!

Back and smaller than ever, Korg's MS-20 mini analog synthesizer revives the legendary MS-20 synth in all of its glory, but at 86% of the original size. This is no copycat knockoff either - the MS-20 mini is nearly identical to the original, with the same analog oscillators (now digitally stabilized), first-generation filters, and a VCA that's been tweaked to reduce noise. You'll also find cool new additions, including an External Signal Processor for your mics and instruments, MIDI In, and even USB connectivity, onboard the Korg MS-20 mini.
Now, although it does not SAY "DCO", and perhaps a new form of digital stabilization for as Korg states, "...with the SAME ANALOG OSC's...", has been developed by Korg but sales rep said, "You could CALL them DCO's, but the osc's behave and sound true to the orig. MS20 side by side."
What say you (anyone) about this new revelation? Would this change your avid interest?
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I've pre-ordered mine yesterday... Can't wait till it arrives!
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What say you (anyone) about this new revelation? Would this change your avid interest?
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It just makes it better, I think. Classic analogue is famous for getting out of tune, and being sensitive to temperature and stuff like that. Digital stability only means it always plays as it should and was thought out to sound in the first place. I have no doubt they would have implemented this back then if such a thing was possible. This is like the debate about tape warmth... Back in the days, it was a real pain in the ass to record stuff to tape and nowadays people complain about digital being to transparent - which engineers would have killed for in the sixties or seventies. Technology does evolve, and I'll be getting one of this perfectly tuned analogue classic beasts for sure and not give a crap about those that say the original sounds much better kind of bull - and it's true other foruns are filled with such people to the extent I can't even read it.

I was thinking of getting an analogue for a while, to be honest, but wasn't really interested in most of the stuff out there: for it's either short on features (or knobs, or both), or way to expensive. I mean, I'm pretty sure the Mopho, for example, sounds good, but to my eyes (and wallet) it sounds like a lot of cash for such a small device and having to dig through menus and all of that - just doesn't read analogue to me. I mean, I choose the Virus C over the Snow for some reason, and I don't regret it: I think people make better sounds by interacting with the instrument in an intuitive way, much more then having tons of features packed within menus, but then... I'm still an enthusiast for the features as well, and I obviously have no trouble with software instruments either, and that's why the snow is still on my wish list - or the desktop even, but would rather wait to see if something else comes up by the likes of Access, to.

But this new Korg, I think, is packed with enough juice on it to appeal to all those who have always liked the idea of having an analogue synth, but really couldn't afford the big ones, pretty much the same way as Arturia's MiniBrute - and not so much the Moog, which is far to expensive for what it does.
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