Korg Re-Issue mini-MS20 Monosynth!!!!

[TweakHead]

Yeah, but it would be as much hardware as the Virus is, really. It would just allow you to edit the routing (instead of having a fixed one, even though it's rather flexible) to do, say, put the distortion before the filter section, or anything you can imagine. It's a way of combining the modules, and the limit for this is the amount of DSP available. The playing and editing of the sound, once this presets (they're really synths) are done, would be on the keyboard and with knob tweaking, and the sound comes from audio, just like the Virus.

But I really don't worry much about the difference between hardware and software when it comes to digital synths. In a way, the Virus is a plug-in with a dedicated hardware. And these days, along with the return of real analogue on the market, we're also seeing software catching up in its ability to reproduce the real sound of analogue gear: things like U-He's Diva can blow your mind! If you close your eyes, you won't tell the difference, let alone in a mix... And I think FM8 is probably the best digital FM synth out there, for example. And things like Zebra, allowing you to draw waves by hand and having such mad routing possibilities (and don't get me started on Reaktor, search for Tim Exile Reaktor's setup on youtube and let your jaw drop eheh) is something that even hardcore hardware people should keep an eye on. At the end of the day what matters is the music we make, and nowadays there's plenty of ways to sound good.

I got into this totally inside the box, and only recently got myself a couple of hardware synths, for example. Once you learn to make them sound good, even the cheap plug-ins we used to have, imagine what you can do with the real deal. I think the difference between my generation and yours, so to speak, is that we're getting to know hardware after using computers a lot, and you're doing the opposite. And it's cool. Full circle, again

[namnibor]

Like the way you put that into words. Full circle indeed. Have been computer literate since Windows 95 *but* nothing as far as DAW until this past year or two. That's why I decided last year to take some sound advice and have a seperate custome tower pc built for video and audio editing duties and use laptop for everyday use and a book I keep putting-off intend to write about rather unique military experiences. Being a Type-A Personality, rarely do absolutely nothing for sake of doing nothing.
There's *ONE* vst/synth/sampler called Izotope IRIS that I want to purchase eventually. Ever read-up and see the things you can do with sound as if it were maleable clay? It's not a cheap one at $199. but would let you take a portable digital recorder and lay it next to a railroad track when train is en route, then take that sound as well (as banks of sounds it comes with) and imagine mixing slice of the stress on metal on metal mixed with say a bee's nest, thunder, and say a dash of cat's meow--then resampling, twisting, effecting, filtering, then drawing vector-like lines where the pass of the synth/oscillator's built cross over become whatever you want...! Take a look http://izotope.com/products/audio/iris/ at demo and tell me what you think? It's like making sounds with a Haydron Collider (sp?), ha!
What's cool about the "full-circel" as you wrote above, is both groups have alot to offer and learn from each, if Ego and Id is let down to do so. Imagine Access Support pulling their hair out whilst being patient with those that Virus Control issues were more times than not their misunderstanding of the computer environment? Have read some real funny threads where people having problems with their DAW, whichever it may be, yet stubornly expecting to be using skype or play person to person proccessor intensive games over internet!! Ignorance is bliss to some...the red or blue pill?!

[oscillator]

I lived a period computer-free and it was nice, but when i discovered Ableton Live i jump off the chair! Simply because of the endless possibilities of DAW.
I mean in terms of workflow and unique combinations possibilities that are impossible in the 'real world'.
Iris seems cool, but i watched some basic sample manipulation around that gives you similar results. I don't like too much tweaking samples, and maybe for that Iris could be good, 'cause it gives you a sort af 'automated creativity' for new sounds.

[namnibor]

Originally Posted by oscillator

I lived a period computer-free and it was nice, but when i discovered Ableton Live i jump off the chair! Simply because of the endless possibilities of DAW.
I mean in terms of workflow and unique combinations possibilities that are impossible in the 'real world'.
Iris seems cool, but i watched some basic sample manipulation around that gives you similar results. I don't like too much tweaking samples, and maybe for that Iris could be good, 'cause it gives you a sort af 'automated creativity' for new sounds.

Both the visual artist and musician in me loves what it can do as a "tool" nothing more and nothing less. As it also has full keyboard assignment to sounds created. But, in just listening to the demo, it actually made me realize MORE I can do without IRIS using the crazy-deeper filters and mod-matirx of my Waldorf Q and of course our beloved Virus! By the way, the big Q and my Virus B and C are all equally deep, yet the Q is significantly different or vice versa, that together they are stronger than any single component. Oscillator, after hearing your SoundCloud stuff especially, I think you can realize where we can not necessarily have to buy software like IRIS nor copy it, yet be further inspired knowing our instruments are so ahead of any hardware still in sound design capabilities, that especially using say the external input to bring one's cooked-up crazy-ass alien filter-playing madness BACK into itself or from another synth (such as highly rec. microwave XT), we gain a new perspective/inspiration by IRIS or even a visit to a Museum of Modern Art and how that stimulates the creative thought processes??!! I hope I made some sense...just started first cup of coffee for day!
Thanks for the shared experience with Ableton Live as I have a Lite version that came with a Novation Remote SL61 MKII still residing in closet and keep being told would like the work-flow of it for it's intuitiveness, if anything. Have some tutorial DVD's picked-up on Reaper and like it's approach because unlike most other DAW's, YOU set-up Reaper to how you want it to work for YOU rather than the rather sterile pro tools (barrrf) approach. I also like Reaper's open source approach and constantly improving features for free given the donationware is honored of like $60. usd for vast future window of updates. The PC is simply a tool and for me, do not like to be spending more time alved to it rather than actually exploring sonic frontiers with my hardware.
Do you have an interest Oscillator, in the Korg Mini-MS20 100% analog monosynth? It in fact could be another source of running output of Virus through real analog filters and more or using cv from pedal out to activate an open filter, et al...entirely new territories at an unbeatable sound and know that the MS20 can be made to sound chaotic-rip frontal lobe out as well as smooth and nice--not a typical "Korg sound" one would identify with their digital synths, YET it's own sound unlike say a Moog or DSI DCO. These are exciting times for sound design and I know for fact there's many people that would love to have any incarnation of Virus, even if it is smothered in sour grapes, once they realize the rather silly stereotype many have mentally adopted that Virus is ONLY good for trance genre...kind of like saying my washing machine is best used for all white clothes and a different washing machine is better at colored clothes. It's ALL dependant on a person going beyond presets and diving in and exploring infinite possibilities with the tools in front of them.