Great dubstep bass wobbles on TI ?

[feedingear]

@shinobi, the LFO sequencing function of Massive is where its real power lies, and where lots of those patterns come from. That said you can still go through and record your sounds off the TI and then do some slicing anyway - can yield some interesting results.

[SHINOBI]

Thanks guys....... so Can I make at least as powerful sounds with the TI as with Massive or not??.. I see the less advanced MS2000 can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMxV5T_TRYw

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by SHINOBI

Thanks guys....... so Can I make at least as powerful sounds with the TI as with Massive or not??.. I see the less advanced MS2000 can http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMxV5T_TRYw

My honest opinion is that 99% of sounds made on one synth can be made on another, but I feel guilty about giving an unqualified yes without having a Virus in front of me and being able to upload a patch that would demonstrate it. In other words if I said yes your natural response could and perhaps should be "how" and for that, unfortunately, I don't have an answer.

Some synths lend themselves better to some sounds, and on other synths the same sound "is possible" but so awkward to reproduce you might never want to go there or be able to in a practical sense. In some cases, things like algorithmic limitations on filters, signal routes, and synth-specific FX combinations could make a sound on one subtractive synth difficult or seeming impossible to produce on another, and also sometimes characteristics present in one result in a similar but different sound on another even given the same basic steps to recreate. So, I stick to my belief of the 99% rule above, but it's not to say that one should get a Virus specifically for this type of sound because it may or may not excel at it (could fall into the hard-to-create category). I would search you tube for some tutorials or search for patch banks that get you close to what you need, or pay very close attention to the artist whose sound gets the closest to what you want to do, what types of synth they use.

Here is a wobble bass on Virus B that may provide some insight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osIKKbsKJ-o

Here is some Skrillex-type sounds on Massive which don't help directly with the Virus, but understanding what constitutes the sound on one synth should get you headed in the right direction on any other: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOgo7RXla5g

What's interesting about the second link is that he chose specific waveforms for this and is basically phaseshifting the sample to get a formant sound. The former points out the importance of the harmonic base that I mentioned a couple of posts back, and the latter shows just how revealing watching a technique video like this can be, even if you take the technique and run with it on a different synth.

I promise you that learning as much as you can about synthesis and sound design will be the most powerful tool in your synthesis arsenal, and far and away more important than what specific synth you use to apply that knowledge to.

Not the answer you're looking for, I know, but the best I can do on this one. In the video you posted, the guy doesn't really go into a lot of detail on how he got those sounds out of the MS2000... a lot of what is really making it dubstep is the fact that he's chopped it up and playing on the MPC, IMO.

[SHINOBI]

Thank u MBTC for your help!