What the pluck?

[feedingear]

Originally Posted by infraction

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Forget comparisons and actually use the tools.

I'd venture thats what most people think when they read this thread update. It certainly sums up my position.

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by feedingear

I'd venture thats what most people think when they read this thread update. It certainly sums up my position.

You realize it comes across as a lame excuse right? If the conclusion is to actually use the tools, would it not make sense to use the tools that are best for the job? The way the thread left off, it seems the best tool for this particular job is softsynths.

[feedingear]

Infraction posted up videos of plucks of all the different sound sets, and his own file as well.

" The way the thread left off, it seems the best tool for this particular job is softsynths"

Because no one can be fucked spending the time they could be using to make music on posting up a bunch of presets from the TI, just to convince one person on the forum that the TI can make a pluck?

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by feedingear

Infraction posted up videos of plucks of all the different sound sets, and his own file as well.

As I mentioned to Infraction, I was not able to download his example so I could not hear it, I will try again in a moment. There was no followup. The other pre-packaged demos do absolutely nothing along the lines of providing apples-to-apples comparison for purposes of this thread.

Originally Posted by feedingear

Because no one can be fucked spending the time they could be using to make music on posting up a bunch of presets from the TI, just to convince one person on the forum that the TI can make a pluck?

Perhaps because they are too fucking incomptent to take 5 minutes to post their own original examples, much less give EXACT details around filter specifics? That's how long it took me to do it.

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by MBTC

As I mentioned to Infraction, I was not able to download his example so I could not hear it, I will try again in a moment. There was no followup. The other pre-packaged demos do absolutely nothing along the lines of providing apples-to-apples comparison for purposes of this thread.

I just finally opened it. It's a .mid file? FFS, do I really need to explain why an MP3 is more appropriate here?

[feedingear]

I actually just listened to your pluck example. No offense, but it sounds pretty awful. How you can think that it sounds better then the factory TI sounds is honestly beyond me.

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by feedingear

I actually just listened to your pluck example. No offense, but it sounds pretty awful. How you can think that it sounds better then the factory TI sounds is honestly beyond me.

Fair enough, and I've had the same reaction to some of the Virus-produced tracks I've heard here. I wasn't saying it was a great pluck, I was pointing out specific filter characteristics and explaining to the OP what is required for a good pluck sound. I dont have a Virus at the moment so I can't hear it. His point was that the attack and other characteristics of the pluck he is getting out of the Virus is pathetic. He posted examples to prove his point. I pointed out that the Virus presets I heard when I had one were very dismal along the lines of plucks.

Others seemed to think what I said was over-the-top, so I simply asked for some examples to be posted of good Virus plucks. Unless it's a preset, I still stand behind what I originally said that none of the presets on the Ti2 are good plucks. I also said earlier in the thread that I fully believe the Virus is CAPABLE of a good pluck, I would just like to hear it.

As I said it was never meant to be a pissing contest, just an exploration in the creation of a sound that happens to be very important in the trance genre. So create some good plucks, and post them, otherwise you're just trolling for debates.

[MBTC]

One other thing I wanted to point out... The way a Virus sounds when you have headphones plugged into it, or you have the signal going to an amp is one thing. The way things sound once it has gone through your DAW and ends up in a .wav file or an .mp3 is something different entirely. The Virus and every other synth on the planet sounds great directly but loses something when it becomes an ipod ready file. I posted sound bytes knowing that FLS has a notoriously bad reputation for final output, at least I've never been able to get final output to sound anything like live playing.

So, its not enough to compare my sound clips to how the virus in front of you sounds. This is why I'm asking for clips for comparison.

[feedingear]

[quote=MBTC;298948 FLS has a notoriously bad reputation for final output, at least I've never been able to get final output to sound anything like live playing.[/quote]

http://soundcloud.com/informantmusic/checkmate

Made in FL.

[feedingear]

PS: Also, Spor. Nuff said.