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Old 14.02.2011, 11:55 PM
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Just my 2c ; )

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Well it seems your opinion is similar to mine. Do you get lots of haters here too? I'm feeling the heat. Maybe my choice of words is what sets people off? Actually when I consider comments across other threads I've gotten the impression there are more folks that agree with me than disagree.

However I am definately feeling like I am making enemies here lately and that was never my intention. I've learned that Virus owners can be extremely sensitive and brand loyal when something negative is said about this synth. Even I've mentioned many times over I think highly of this beautiful piece of hardware as an instrument on the whole, I just want to see improvements around total integration, USB and DAW integration, more power/voice count, or at least a trade off in price so that there is more bang for the buck compared to soft synths.

But, the positive things I say never get noticed.. lol. I am just going to try to force myself to back off for a bit, because my membership on these forums is for a reason (I hope to own the next-gen Virus). Lately I'm getting accused of being a troll and I never wanted to come here to make enemies or piss folks off.
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Old 15.02.2011, 05:58 AM
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Hey its a public forum, say what you want...the haters dont make any music with it anyway so fuck em ; )
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Old 15.02.2011, 01:11 PM
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Hey its a public forum, say what you want...the haters dont make any music with it anyway so fuck em ; )
I know, but the point of my presence here is for information exchange. When I have something to contribute (usually sound design or generally synth oriented but not specific to the Virus), I try to help others out. If I own a Virus one day, I would visit here to benefit from others' experience, so I do not really want to isolate myself from those folks or build up a hate club that ignores everything I say because they think I'm always going to say something negative about the Virus.

Beyond that there is nothing anyone could say over an internet forum that's going to irk me or make a difference between me having a good or crappy day
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Old 15.02.2011, 07:08 AM
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I just want to see improvements around total integration, USB and DAW integration, more power/voice count, or at least a trade off in price so that there is more bang for the buck compared to soft synths.
I don't know if anyone outside Access knows the sales figures of
the various Viruses. But I would suppose that they won't sell
in the numbers that the DX7 sold in his time.

Manufacturing quality hardware in small batches cannot really be done
for cheap. And development of hardware, software and support needs
to be payed for (not to forget marketing

I really think that Access should move to a hybrid approach in the
future. The support & development of the total integration is more
hassle than could be worth if they did this:

a.) port their DSP-routines to x86 (I would suppose that somewhere in
their labs they have done so already).

b.) Release a VSTi/AU version of this for integration into hosts.

c.) Have an external Virus "D" without the "TI" part but complete
processing power necessary for live (which is probably much less
than whats used in the production environment)

d.) Use the external Virus "D" as a "dongle" & controller for the virtual
instrument running on Mac & PC

It is much easier to maintain a virtual software instrument than to
maintain their total integration over the years (see my other post).

Tobias
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Old 15.02.2011, 07:09 AM
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But, the positive things I say never get noticed.. lol. I am just going to try to force myself to back off for a bit, because my membership on these forums is for a reason (I hope to own the next-gen Virus). Lately I'm getting accused of being a troll and I never wanted to come here to make enemies or piss folks off.
You are welcome and entitled to your opinion. I just think that with less then a months experience on the virus before you returned it (for your reasons youve stated), there are a few areas you post about (sound quality as in relation to VSTS etc) that its hard to give you credibility for, particularly without getting to hear your own music/production output as a way for others to judge your level of expertise. My 2c.
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Old 15.02.2011, 01:18 PM
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You are welcome and entitled to your opinion. I just think that with less then a months experience on the virus before you returned it (for your reasons youve stated), there are a few areas you post about (sound quality as in relation to VSTS etc) that its hard to give you credibility for, particularly without getting to hear your own music/production output as a way for others to judge your level of expertise. My 2c.
That's largely because between my job, dating & social life, and the rest of life's time-sinks, I have not had the time to complete a fully produced track I'm proud of in a very long time, so posting a full musical track is not necessarily indicative of my expertise, it would only be a demonstration of my emphasis on melodies and prove that I still have a long way to go before I am good at mixing. And since I've never aspired to be a professional musician or DJ I am not motivated to spend a lot of time on the art of mixing when I just enjoy creating melodic trance as a sort of therapeutical exercise.

When it comes to sound design, it is easier to post small snippets of examples, to illustrate a point. And I did that as recently as a couple of weeks ago.
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