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[Roby31]

It's not harassing, it's human curiosity. I genuinely want to know why there's all these complaints. I want to know what in the human mind brings somebody to spend that kind of money for something he doesn't find joy in.

Let me try to explain why I find this annoying with an example, will you follow me?
I like motorbikes. I enjoy riding. For some reason, I like dirt bikes more than regular touring or sports bikes. For some (stranger) reason, I buy a Yamaha R1. Then I go on an Internet forum and complain that Yamaha doesn't provide an off-road set of wheels and suspension settings.

What foundations are there to sustain my complaints? Why have I bought the bike in the first place if it wasn't made for the purpose I wanted?

Also, you did the right thing, you returned the synth and hopefully you got your money back. You're not on this board just to complain but also to show your suggestion that I'm sure many people appreciate. I don't see why you felt "accused" here apart for the earlier discussion that I intentionally left behind because I feel a bit of a language barrier preventing us from understanding each other (just like in the Dune thread).

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by Roby31

It's not harassing, it's human curiosity. I genuinely want to know why there's all these complaints. I want to know what in the human mind brings somebody to spend that kind of money for something he doesn't find joy in.

Let me try to explain why I find this annoying with an example, will you follow me?
I like motorbikes. I enjoy riding. For some reason, I like dirt bikes more than regular touring or sports bikes. For some (stranger) reason, I buy a Yamaha R1. Then I go on an Internet forum and complain that Yamaha doesn't provide an off-road set of wheels and suspension settings.

What foundations are there to sustain my complaints? Why have I bought the bike in the first place if it wasn't made for the purpose I wanted?

Also, you did the right thing, you returned the synth and hopefully you got your money back. You're not on this board just to complain but also to show your suggestion that I'm sure many people appreciate. I don't see why you felt "accused" here apart for the earlier discussion that I intentionally left behind because I feel a bit of a language barrier preventing us from understanding each other (just like in the Dune thread).

I was mostly just having some fun on the last comment, I wouldn't visit forums at all if I didn't enjoy it.

I am actually one that doesn't appreciate incessant whining, either, but I do try to differentiate between constructive complaints and those who just like to bitch.

I've always considered the Virus a really interesting study in all of this, because on one hand it is such a beautiful and sought-after instrument in the world of synthesis, yet many folks experience with it seems to be kind of like having a high-maintenance, tempermental girlfriend with a perfect body that you can't really seem to just force yourself send packing for various reasons but can never get to do what you want her to. I accepted the Virus as a similar entity, and I keep coming back here looking for maturity in certain areas of the product so that I can hopefully re-kindle the relationship. So on one hand I don't like unwarranted whining but I can understand why, at the current price point vs. what's available in software based plugins, a lot of folks have expectations that are not met by Virus hardware.

[Roby31]

Originally Posted by MBTC

I was mostly just having some fun on the last comment, I wouldn't visit forums at all if I didn't enjoy it.

I am actually one that doesn't appreciate incessant whining, either, but I do try to differentiate between constructive complaints and those who just like to bitch.

I've always considered the Virus a really interesting study in all of this, because on one hand it is such a beautiful and sought-after instrument in the world of synthesis, yet many folks experience with it seems to be kind of like having a high-maintenance, tempermental girlfriend with a perfect body that you can't really seem to just force yourself send packing for various reasons but can never get to do what you want her to. I accepted the Virus as a similar entity, and I keep coming back here looking for maturity in certain areas of the product so that I can hopefully re-kindle the relationship. So on one hand I don't like unwarranted whining but I can understand why, at the current price point vs. what's available in software based plugins, a lot of folks have expectations that are not met by Virus hardware.

This I can understand a lot. But I don't understand buying something without certain missing features that one seems to need so much, especially when the object we're talking about costs a very high price. They weren't forced to buy it I suppose yet when there is/was the option to return it (again) many didn't use it and complain

Another example: I wanted LFOs that could do FM and go in audio range, and more than two envelopes - I bought a Waldorf synthesizer. The Virus didn't have those features and I didn't consider it. I wanted the versatility of the Virus, I didn't consider buying a Voyager

I feel the same limitations in most software instruments: many of them don't have nearly as many features that I would consider enough, while they are in some hardware instruments. If my processor is way more powerful than current DSPs, why not use it? Yet I don't find many plug-ins that do what I want them to do, and until I program one myself I will refrain from buying those that don't satisfy me.

Some of these "I wish..." "Why the fuck don't they..." "The filter sounds like shit..." have never belonged to this thread, yet they're here as the usual complaining, sort of a microwave background radiation in the synth universe.

[to-pse]

Hi everyone,

I think the next version of the virus will most probably
contain the newest generation of Motorola 56k DSPs

Instead of the two single-core 150Mhz (TI) or 180Mhz (TI2),
they will probably use the newer single-chip dual-core DSP
at 250Mhz. This will decrease the price for the PCB and
increase performance by a good amount...

USB 2.0 integration would good, to allow for 24bit VSTi
Integration with more parallel channels.

Even better than using USB might be the usage of Ethernet AVB,
a new standard supposed to replace all the proprietary ways to
transfer audio over network cables. There are quite a few
manufacturers going in this direction (Dante, MyMix for example)

This way a virus could be integrated via AVB for the audio path.
Since more & more people start using digitial snakes for live,
This would also make sense for gigging...

Tobias