Total Integration Discussion

[Ronkaz]

Originally Posted by synthman1

Without a clean OS “stand alone” version to compare and test, it’s difficult to “prove” my perspective unequivocally, but you cant say TI code doesn’t have some effect on the overall stability and performance either unless this can tested. Besides, we already know the TI is more stable in stand alone mode than in TI mode, so it does clearly point that way if not provide some evidence.

your argument is flawed and it "proves" nothing. have a happy life.

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[luddy]

I can't see why anyone needs to be hostile or dismissive of the suggestion that a standalone editor would be nice. If it's such an obvious non-starter and ridiculous idea, then why do Roland, Korg, Yamaha, Nord, and many others provide computer interfaces of this kind to their synths? All of these companies are clueless about synth interface design? hmm.

Here's the thing. If someone prefers to work in standalone mode for one reason or another -- because they want to use the analog outs, or because they are using a hardware sequencer, or because they find the latency of TI mode to be problematic when they are tracking, or whatever -- then they don't get any software editor to the machine at all while they are recording with it. In other words, there is kitchen sink USB TI mode, in which audio and MIDI and editing and everything goes through the computer, or standalone mode, in which nothing does. These are very extreme choices. To have a software librarian for organizing patches while you are recording would be really nice even for those of us working in standalone mode.

It's not the end of the world; I'm crazy about the Virus and I have used it in standalone mode from the first day and I've been very happy with it. But it irritates me a little that several of my much older synths have computer-based librarians and editors while, effectively, I don't get that functionality from the Virus because I choose to use it standalone.

-Luddy

[synthman1]

Originally Posted by luddy

In other words, there is kitchen sink USB TI mode, in which audio and MIDI and editing and everything goes through the computer, or standalone mode, in which nothing does. These are very extreme choices. To have a software librarian for organizing patches while you are recording would be really nice even for those of us working in standalone mode.

I guess in all their fascination with USB and TI they forgot people still use MIDI in, out and thru ports.

That’s another good point. If Access ever decided to stopped supporting TI for whatever reason, or offer an alternative, they would have a stand alone OS and midi capable librarian/editor like most other hardware synths.

[Atziluth]

There are some people who don't like the Virus TI integration, so



sell it.

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by Atziluth

There are some people who don't like the Virus TI integration, so



sell it.

hahaha this forum gets better by the day!

[synthman1]

Originally Posted by Atziluth

There are some people who don't like the Virus TI integration, so sell it.

Some of us have “sold it” and gone back to previous models or are waiting to upgrade (again) until there is clear confirmation of stability and the issues are resolved.

But that’s not in the best interest of Access Music or the user community, is it? Certainly “take it or leave it” is one approach, there are other alternatives as well!

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by synthman1

Some of us have “sold it” and gone back to previous models or are waiting to upgrade (again) until there is clear confirmation of stability and the issues are resolved.

But that’s not in the best interest of Access Music or the user community, is it? Certainly “take it or leave it” is one approach, there are other alternatives as well!

Yep, I along with most of the people I colab with have taken the "not buy one at all" approach - works for us.

[luddy]

Originally Posted by Atziluth

There are some people who don't like the Virus TI integration, so sell it.

psst: some people bought it for the sound it makes and not only so they could pretend it is a software plug-in. weird, I know.

-Luddy

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by luddy

psst: some people bought it for the sound it makes and not only so they could pretend it is a software plug-in. weird, I know.

-Luddy

hehe classic.

[Celestry]

Before having purchased the TI2, I believed that I would exploit the Total Integration fully: And so it was a joy to behold those lovely waveforms and EGs, fiddle with the ARPs in VC, browse and browse again, at once vast and diverse numbers of presets, sending both audio and midi over USB, in lieu of a decent audio interface!

However, these past months at least, I utilise VC for browsing presets, and that alone! I do route my DAW audio via the Virus, but all Virus sound creation and preset reconfiguration is done on the synth itself! I find myself drawn to it, and, being a simpleton, feel that mousing a change in filter cut-off isn't quite the same as knobbing it! I am pleased with the USB MIDI, but that's nothing special, eh?

Given a decent MOTU or similar, I doubt I would use TI but for browsing patch treasure!

(^_^) Ahh, what am i saying this time? (^_^)