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Old 11.07.2009, 10:23 PM
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Kind of cracks me up reading the comments about vinyl mixing vs CD/Ableton/PC - makes me think of the old musicians comments about synthesisers/arpeggiators playing music/being skillless, and the elitist wank that I know from personal experience lots of 'contemporary' musicians like to spout about electronic music.
From my personal stand there's nothing wrong with what your saying.

Preference to vinyl is the tangility of the record vs mp3 in a list. Its a work preference nothing more. CD mixers came out, nothing wrong with that, just prefer vinyl. MP3s and various methods of mixing came out again nothing wrong with that....in fact the use of finalscratch/serato etc using vinyl to trigger an mp3 track/sample from a laptop/pc is a great tool and counts towards creativity.

Overall its about keeping it real and people appreciate a good result whatever your scene.

Personally if I went on the pod and pressed a button in ableton or a tracklisting in a media player and the mix played...would the response and atmosphere be any different to an individual doing it all live? Maybe we could see people paying money and going to Wembley to see a band play live with no instruments and just pressing play on a cd deck!!! Mind you could be a hole in the argument here when referring to some artists who mime and just perform like the recent Britney spears concert - if you want!

Its about the experinece for the crowds, players, dj and most importantly the music and its scene.

After all everything is subjective...its what drives the vibe and creates the atmosphere that gets the result!
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Old 12.07.2009, 04:17 PM
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the media discussion has been going on forever... at first glance, both argumentations are perfectly valid: on one hand, nothing can replace the feel of an actual record, but on the other hand, digital technology is something you should consider embracing if you want to raise the bar (or at least keep up).

but this is not the point. as it was already said, it doesn't matter at all to the audience; they came to dance and they don't care what the DJ is using as long as the music is okay.

the difference between a vinyl user and an mp3 user lies in the approach to music itself. when you grow up paying 12$ for a record, you automatically learn to pick out only the best - because you can't just walk out with 50 records, it's gonna cost you a fortune. so you value it. you don't go "who cares, I'll take those two as well" like you can in mp3 stores; you spend hours in the store picking out a handful of tunes. younger DJs who never knew what a record store is often don't realize how much crap they buy - and it shows when you hear them. a vinylist's selection is usually much better.

so I guess being a little old school is okay if you regard it in this context. if you're coming from vinyl, however, switching to a halfway digital solution - timecoded vinyl - is definitely the way to go. you get the best of both worlds and you still can spin your old stuff (and rarities you simply won't get online).
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