OS3.06: Finally, my TI is what I always wanted! (Positive update to FL problem)

[Joey]

wait 3.06?

that isnt on the access site?

[Dusk]

Sorry Joey - I meant OS 3.0.1.06.

Celestry - glad you've had a trouble free experience so far. it does seem to be a matter of luck in many cases. Oh, I too used to lust over the Virus, and never thought I'd ever bring myself to buy one!

Don't know about you but Im finding the new OS has opened up the sound design potential again, even beyond the new OSC modes in OS2. Me personally, i want to create odd/bizarre/dissonant sounds for techno, which are often achieved through using FX as much as synthesis. Now though, the range of FX we now have in OS3 means I am able to genuinely synthesises sounds, then play with FX combinations on those sounds, as if I was using external FX.

Think about the possibilities: a sound with different detuned graintables, spread unisoned, we're modulating formant and wavetable position, one is FM'ing another acc. to the filter envelope, there is a bit of ring mod, some noise, a sub osc (why not?) driven through a dual resonant rectified filter stage, into a high feedback chorus, low spread phaser, a heavily modulated tape delay,room reverb with predelay, mixed in with a freq shifted version of itself, then finally EQ'd... and now, let's turn on the arp, and how about we connect some stuff in the MATRIX?? This is actually a realistic patch that you or I can make tonight - no external FX needed, and we'll still have some CPU left over for other sounds too.

As you rightly said, it's the fact that the VC is so visually logically, and clearly laid out, that I can even sit here and visualise such a patch like this, and the way it flows.

You get what you pay for.

[Celestry]

Dusk, did you miss the bit where I said I have never had a Virus before! Slow down for me there! (@_@)

Nah, kidding! (^_^) It's interesting that you can string those words together about sound creation and my imagination allows for a very basic sensation about how it will sound. Just goes to show that, for all the time we sit there playing our synths, we're actually memorising/sampling the sounds and how the parameters effect one another. Mental synthesis, eh? Love it!

And I totally agree about getting what you pay for. The quality of the Virus is evident from the first moment you set eyes on it! Then there are the free updates, given with love from the Access team, and that VC is just the interface you've always wanted from way back when you fell in love with synths after reading the back cover of Jean Michel Jarre LPs! (^_^)

[Paprika]

So there's no way to compensate that delay in FL? I struggle for months trying to find a way or plug-in (( Indeed thank you Access, please buy me Cubase 5 too!!

[Ronkaz]

read the fecking tutorial for fl studio...

r

[Dusk]

For a start, in my situation FL doesnt work with the latest OS at all (re read my post.) However, even with earlier OS, does that "fecking tutorial" cure latency in FL Studio? Have you even followed that "fecking tutorial"?

The only "solution" is to use the analogue outs, and even then;

• timing is still not perfect (try a tight syncopated bassline if you don't believe me)
• you have only one stereo output pair (on a standard 1-in soundcard, like mine)
• your Virus parts aren't "in" your mix and so can't be shaped or effected, and simply don't quite "glue" with the rest of the mix

Having tried every conceivable parameter in FL, on my audio card, and the Virus, in the end I had to use Cubase, to get the most from my investment in this synth.

[Ronkaz]

page 8 on the virus and fl studio tutorial explains how to deal with the plgin latency

r

[Dusk]

• Timing is still not perfect (try a tight syncopated bassline if you don't believe me.)