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Old 19.01.2009, 09:23 AM
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Default Wavy FM pad?

When I was using the Subtractor in Reason, I could create a cool wavy warbly sound by doing the following:


osc 1 + 2 on, mix 50% each, both saws
noise level - 8%
noise colour - 0% (ie "darkest" noise)
FM level - 5%

This would result in an organic sounding wavy pitch effect.
Unlike the Virus, there was only one mode of FM on the Subtractor. I have no idea what "mode" it might have been though..

How can I replicate this on the Virus TI? What FM mode should I use and how can I change the noise colour?


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Old 19.01.2009, 10:02 AM
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When I was using the Subtractor in Reason, I could create a cool wavy warbly sound by doing the following:


osc 1 + 2 on, mix 50% each, both saws
noise level - 8%
noise colour - 0% (ie "darkest" noise)
FM level - 5%

This would result in an organic sounding wavy pitch effect.
Unlike the Virus, there was only one mode of FM on the Subtractor. I have no idea what "mode" it might have been though..

How can I replicate this on the Virus TI? What FM mode should I use and how can I change the noise colour?


-Annikk
An example/soundclip/sample would help us help you
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Old 19.01.2009, 10:17 AM
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Yea.. that would help I guess :P
I'll post one when I get home tonight.


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Old 19.01.2009, 06:43 PM
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Ok. Here is a very basic Subtractor setup which shows the setting I am using to get the sound:



You can see here I have made the following relevant settings to attain this sound:

1. Turned Oscillator 2 on.
2. Turned FM up to 6.
3. Turned Noise level up to 15.
4. Turned Noise colour down to 0.

The result is this sound. (mp3, 193 KB, right click save-as)


How can I replicate this on the Virus?


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Old 19.01.2009, 08:55 PM
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And liek, srsly, how do I change the noise colour?

In this thread the guy claims to have found the location after reading the manual. I've read the same page he's talking about and gone through all the edit menus including after I'd turned noise level up a bit, and there is still no mention of noise colour anywhere.

I've been through all the edit menus for oscillators 1, 2, and 3, the master edit menu, the config menu, the filter menus... I can't think where else to check.

Using OS 2.7.3 until later this week when I get my new DAW and I can install Virus Control and update it... Is the noise colour control just missing in this OS or something?


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Old 19.01.2009, 10:50 PM
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And liek, srsly, how do I change the noise colour?

In this thread the guy claims to have found the location after reading the manual. I've read the same page he's talking about and gone through all the edit menus including after I'd turned noise level up a bit, and there is still no mention of noise colour anywhere.

I've been through all the edit menus for oscillators 1, 2, and 3, the master edit menu, the config menu, the filter menus... I can't think where else to check.

Using OS 2.7.3 until later this week when I get my new DAW and I can install Virus Control and update it... Is the noise colour control just missing in this OS or something?


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Noise colour is still where it's been since VirusC AFAIK, it might have changed button clicks but not location.

On hardware TI:
Select Osc1 and press edit twice, hit the parameter button right a few times.

There ya go. It's available as a modulation destination too.
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Old 20.01.2009, 08:21 AM
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Checked that last night and it's not there :/ The manual implies that as the location too, so it's very strange all in all...
I'll double-check again tonight but I spent hours on this last night so.. :P

I managed to recreate the sound I was looking for by using FM in "Noise" mode. Nice and simple :> However, it would still be nice to know how to change the noise colour. In the mean time I am using a workaround by setting one of the soft knobs to noise colour.


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Old 20.01.2009, 08:43 AM
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Which model of Virus are you using?

I checked on my TI and Virus C and that is where it's located.

Please tell exactly how you are trying to access the paramater.

FM in noise mode is in no way similar, that is using a noise source as a frequency modulation, Not a sound source.

On hardware: press Osc1 select, then press edit Twice, hit parameter right 3 times, there is noise and noise colour.

If you don't see the colour parameter dial some noise in and it will enable.

If you still don't see it, contact Access support.

In the meantime you can set a soft knob or any other midi mappable controller to "noise colour" in the mod matrix or soft knobs page.

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Old 20.01.2009, 09:41 AM
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It's a Virus TI KBD running OS 2.7.3

I'm beginning to wonder if I'm maybe just not pressing the Edit button twice. Does it give you access to another series of menus by pressing it a second time? My desk is about to receive a face full of my face if that's all it was...


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Old 20.01.2009, 11:00 AM
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Yes it does have more options, why else would I say 2 times,

"Press edit twice".

Don't worry, I have seen many people not find features because of this, the new Ring mod / Freq shifter being one example.

Good luck creating the patches.
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