"High presence" euro bassline

[Masterpace]

Maybe should I be more specific. Starting at 1:30 (one minute 30 sec.) in the Ultimate Bass, is the kind of bass I'm more after. How can you get something close from the Virus? Thanks.

[IamEvil]

slightly distorted pulse/square wave sound with slow filter attack + some rez and compressed to hell

that should be pretty close

[flipside]

I don't have the virus in front of me right now, but try setting both osc 1 and sub osc to square, experiment with the level of the subosc in relation to osc 1, and you could also try setting osc 2 to +7 semi, and mix it in, being careful to let osc1 be the dominant. Try the digital distortion, and see what's best of doing it at the filter saturation or in the effects section.

Also, try this: set the sustain slope to its maximum negative setting. Set attack to 0. Now, try setting a balance between decay, sustain and release to make the sound the length you want it to be.

Oh and try and set Osc Init Phase to 32.

This in combination with the amp envelope makes it sound almost like a sample

Sorry if this sounds somewhat vague, I can make some examples later today.

Best,
Alex

[Masterpace]

flipside, I'm going to try a few of your settings tonight. I'm currently at work! Tell me, a square is a pulse with 50 % width, right? I'm using a puse around 65 %. Is that o.k.? I find it gives a more "buzzing" effect. As for oscillator 2, would you use exactly the same waveform but with 7 semitones above? What about FM? Is that required and how could I use it? I forgot about the negative sustain slope. It helps cut off the bass quickly even though the key is pressed so that's a good one. Oscillator init phase to 32? Quite interesting. I will try it also. Regarding the compressor, I could get some nice compression from my onboard digital compressor on the console. I use heavy compression though (10/1 ratio, null attack, hard knee, few ms release, high output gain). It definitely pumps the "oomph". There's just one slight problem though: a few spikes don't seem to get compressed at all and because of the output gain, they just get bigger. Any idea?

[Masterpace]

Alex (flipside), you made my day! I've modified my patch to more or less match your settings and the result is impressive to my hears. A few notes:

-Using a bit of digital distorsion really helps.
-The filters should have some high rectifier saturation.
-Using a quick negative slope on the filter enveloppe makes the bassline much tighter, less muddy.
-For some reason, boosting the signal send to phaser gives a lot of "body" to the bass and makes a huge difference. I don't know why though.
-Using proper EQ and a lot of compression and voila!

The only thing I would like to change is that there's a slight buzzing sound in the background. It's like detuned and can be heard on lower notes. Increasing the initial phase (from 32 to 36 for instance) gets rid of it but alters tonality (bass is higher pitched). So, I prefer to keep it 32.

Any ideas?

[Masterpace]

Alex (flipside), you made my day! I've modified my patch to more or less match your settings and the result is impressive to my hears. A few notes:

-Using a bit of digital distorsion really helps.
-The filters should have some high rectifier saturation.
-Using a quick negative slope on the filter enveloppe makes the bassline much tighter, less muddy.
-For some reason, boosting the signal send to phaser gives a lot of "body" to the bass and makes a huge difference. I don't know why though.
-Using proper EQ and a lot of compression and voila!

The only thing I would like to change is that there's a slight buzzing sound in the background. It's like detuned and can be heard on lower notes. Increasing the initial phase (from 32 to 36 for instance) gets rid of it but alters tonality (bass is higher pitched). So, I prefer to keep it 32.

Any ideas?