Any ideas about this sound?

[camus]

I'm french and i'm a friend of justice and daft punk .I've been once in justice sutdio.

All i can say is that you'll have to gather a lot of gear in order to reproduce their sound : loads of analog synthesizers , hardware filters and fx pedals , like big muff and other things. You just can't reproduce it with the virus only , at least buy a guitar fuzz pedal and an analog filter.

Then record your loop , slice it rearrange it , re re<ord the audio through a external fuzz and filter , compress it ... it's far more easier to try to reproduce Vitalic sound which owns a nordlead 3.

[tttcowan]

Khazul,

Thanks for that but think you've been listenin to the wrong one. The mp3 is my track and I just used lots of z3ta+ softsynths, with some heavy distortion plug ins. Tell me what you think of though! Cheers.

Camus,
Wow! Don't believe you've been in that studio, would give my right arm to get in there! Thanks for your help though, I'm tryin to keep my kit down to minimum at the moment but if you've got any suggestions for any good software plugins that would be helpful. Or indeed, an analog synth to get that would be really cool. You were saying vitalic makes his sound with the nord lead 3, does that differ greatly in sound to the virus? Also, any thoughts on my track posted above would be sweet! It's rough, and it clips, but you get the idea. Thanks again!

Thanks
Tom

[Khazul]

LOL - teach me not to read every word of your post

Nice track BTW, I would tone down the distortion in some bits where its seems to be on everything.


Some comments apply though - just I think it started with a sine wave instead. Tons more resonance at times. Perhaps some metasonix gear and a sherman filterbank would get you there or a bunch of decent similar plugs.

Either way - no way in hell a virus is going to do that on its own.


About the NL3 - its a much brighter sounding synth - much cleaner high end, filter character is quite different and quite good for FM sounds. The huge downer for an NL3 is you will need some fx to go with it. For the kind of music you do... that might actually be a bonus - sounds like your going to need some very analog sounding mangling, so even if you had a virus - its fx aint going to get you close.

For these kind of sounds specifically, you might be *way* better off going for an Alesis Ion - which IMHO is one of the more analog sounding VAs in terms of its osc character and has the advantage of being very cheap and then spending the difference on signal processing. The downer with the Ion, while it has alot of filter options, I much prefer the Virus filters. And of course its synth engine is rather more basic.

Spend you money where you need it - if you need very good clean synth sounds - then Nord or Virus or Waldorf according to taste. If you just going to mangle them to hell, then something more basic but with good meaty raw oscilators and then focus your cash on processing maybe.

[tttcowan]

Cheers Khazul,

Yeah I blatently got carried away with the distortion, lol, I do that quite a lot!

I was just thinking of getting the virus powercore card you see to replace the z3ta, I've had hardware before and much prefer plugins just for usuabilty really. There are lots of nice distortion plug-ins out there, maybe I will have to get stuck into some hardware though. Was thinking of getting a really old analog synth if I was gonna by any hardware then mangle the sounds with effects. What do you think? It's a real shame the virus oscillators aren't upto it by the sounds of things, thats all I want really! Thanks for the help though!

Thanks
Tom

[Khazul]

Just been having a mess around with my TI - you can get very close to these kinds of sounds with it using hypersaw/hypersquare as a starting point then piling on distortion all over the place using the TIs own saturation and distortion fx.

If you are after the concept rather than an exact reproduction - then it aint bad. The reason I guess for starting with a hypersaw is two things, one its a brighter saw/square than the classic mode oscs that the previous models have, the other - well a much much richer sound that makes up to some extent for a less smoothly distructive saturation effect.

Pile on some reso on filter 1, low frequency, LP12/24 or BP so it really bloats the sounds with the distortion, then filter on filter 2 with loads of reso to give extra bite. Set the key follow on both filters so that the filter cutoff follows the keys very closely.

Just for added bloat - used osc 3 to stick a sine wave in an octave down and unison on twin and some light distortion from the TI fx chain as well to dirty up the output of filter 2 a little.

[tttcowan]

Hi khazul,

thanks for that, do you rekon I could do that with a virus powercore?

Cheers.