Sonar/Cubase/ProTools/Logic

[Doc Jones]

Bah, time for a new, more encompassing poll !

Ableton isn't even listed.

[Doc Jones]

oops, didn't realize that this is a brand new poll

[Khazul]

Use Cubase SX and upgraded to V4 then finally came to my senses a few weeks ago and bought Live 6 - wow!!!! whats a hell of a difference it has made.

Suddenly its all spontaneous again - not getting bogged down in focussing on and being distracted by a DAW.

You see Live 6 is as much a musical instrumet as something like an AKAI MPC. Cubase is just a bloody HD recorder and mixing desk - its what you track music with, what you do mixing post production on - it aint what you *make* music in...

I liek Live - I actually find myself staying in musician/dj mode when Im using it, cubase allways makes me think like and audio engineer - which is a bad (too focussed) state of mind to be in for gettting in the zone and make some noise with a good vibe to it.

[Doc Jones]

very well put Khazul. I was going to write something similar when I got out of work, but you beat me to it

Keep in mind, I am a big fan of cubase. Started using cubase back in the 3.7 days, upgraded to version 5.x, then moved over to sx1, then to 2 and finally on to 3. It was kind of a fluke that I picked up Ableton.

Took me a while to really get good at using ableton (the session view was a whole new way of thinking for me) and now that I have a year of experience with it, I have to say, hands down Live is most functional and flexible daw for me. Live lets a musician be a musician (while still giving you all the capabilities of a world class daw). I couldn't imaging try to compose again on cubase.

Up to this point, I still had been doing my mastering in cubase, but am now bringing this phase over to Live as well.

It's just an all around great piece of software.

[Khazul]

My main problem with live so far is that when you using high latency plugins (UAD mastering suite for eg), then the visible location of the sings point ceases to have much relationship with what you hear.

And so when you staring at audio waveforms looking for a specific bit that you want to tweak then you need to disable/remove all the high latency plugins so you can see what your doing again.

I dont ever remember Cubase SX3/4 compounding latency to this extent - I think live seems to add a whole laods of extra latency between plugins that way above that added by Cubase.

Hence I find myself having to keep high latency plugs out and use cheapo compressors where I would rather be using a UAD compresor for eg.

The song position marker definately needs latency compensation applying to it, or the option to compensate it.

Otherwise, excellent application.

[DJ K3LanSlayer]

Originally Posted by Khazul

Use Cubase SX and upgraded to V4 then finally came to my senses a few weeks ago and bought Live 6 - wow!!!! whats a hell of a difference it has made.

Suddenly its all spontaneous again - not getting bogged down in focussing on and being distracted by a DAW.

You see Live 6 is as much a musical instrumet as something like an AKAI MPC. Cubase is just a bloody HD recorder and mixing desk - its what you track music with, what you do mixing post production on - it aint what you *make* music in...

I liek Live - I actually find myself staying in musician/dj mode when Im using it, cubase allways makes me think like and audio engineer - which is a bad (too focussed) state of mind to be in for gettting in the zone and make some noise with a good vibe to it.

Couldn't you spend more time composing / idea making in Reason or Stylus RMX within Cubase or any of the top sequencer's to keep that "groove" /MPC type workflow going?