Creating A Supersawish Trance Lead on a Virus B

[piku303]

wow awsome response. im about to try this right now actually. its a pity there arent more people posting in the sound design forum, after all isnt that the point of owning a virus, making sounds?

[Doc Jones]

I love threads like this.

great post Khazul!

[Khazul]

LOL - this is where I find out my numbers are way out and it sounds like shit

[piku303]

if this patch were any fatter and thicker i think my desk would snap. awsome walk through on how to get the sound, a few things i changed in the ways of minor change in values for parameters. the third osc detuned really gives the patch its punch. in addition to detuneding the third osc i detuned the 2nd one a little too for more spread. im not too familiar with the way the LFO's work but i was able to get them to mod the movement of the 1st and 2nd osc using one per osc at different speeds. also i cant believe how much the sub osc changes the sound. without it its way weaker. thanks so much for the help with the patch. next do you think you could help me with a really nice classic trance pad? sounds like a new thread "virus trance sounds 101."

[piku303]

if this patch were any fatter and thicker i think my desk would snap. awsome walk through on how to get the sound, a few things i changed in the ways of minor change in values for parameters. the third osc detuned really gives the patch its punch. in addition to detuneding the third osc i detuned the 2nd one a little too for more spread. im not too familiar with the way the LFO's work but i was able to get them to mod the movement of the 1st and 2nd osc using one per osc at different speeds. also i cant believe how much the sub osc changes the sound. without it its way weaker. thanks so much for the help with the patch. next do you think you could help me with a really nice classic trance pad? sounds like a new thread "virus trance sounds 101."

[Khazul]

To go from that to a nice pad...

Soften the envelopes - both of them (reduce the attack, add a bit of release). In the filter env, slow the decay.

Maybe re-couple the filters, use the second one to tonall shape the output of teh first - ie like tracking tone control. Crank or the env amounts a little. Drop the high boost on the EQ, instead add a tiny bit of body with eq (slight boost at around 200-600, cut the presence band a bit and maybe take up the extrme high end if you need it). If you cranked up the ring mod, take it back down.

Crank up the reverb so that it starts to take the attack off - ie just over half way. Set reverb colour quite high - +20 or so. If you add in a little phaser - then the high color of the reverb should carry the phaser effect around the sides of the sound. Too much phaser will kill it though.

Now add in a little bit of phaser and/or chorus, also mabe reduce unison to 2 instead of 3 or 4 or whatever you have it set to, and open up the unison detune spread. Try some different waveforms too instead of saw - some of them are quite glassy sounding. Try using the spare LFO to slowly modulate the wave shape or PWM on one osc. Maybe switch the subosc to saw to soften it a little.

Expriment with using delay instead of reverb too - with delay - try a bit of modulation - 10-20 on depth, 10-20 on rate, and try different colour settings and crank up the feedback a bit. Adding modulation wity give it a bit of smear. To much modulation and it sounds just broke, but get it right and it should smear nicely.

Also extreme settings of chorus can give quite good comb filter type sounds.

[Khazul]

You might find this lot useful as well - look for the analogue synths programming tutorial.

http://www.access-music.de/

Select products (top), then discontinued products (left), the Virus B picture, then Download Area (left), then Documentation (mid right).

Tutorial is in the list. Also loads of sounds there as well.

[bishopkris40]

There are more than just the two posts in that section it is that there is a filter, just select posts from the beginning.

Here's mine
http://infekted.org/viewtopic.php?t=5777

someone elses
http://www.infekted.org/virus/showthread.php?t=27622