105 great BUT?

[ben crosland]

Actually, upon further investigation, I've been getting strange behaviour with SX3, too.

I set up a brand new project, and put down two tracks - one playing single notes, the other playing alongside, but with an arpeggiator instead.

Playback absolutely tight as.

Tried an Audio Mixdown - same.

Subsequent attempts however, were not - the arp did indeed play behind.

Every time I just play the sequence though, the timing is absolutely perfect.

I have to wonder whether this is something weird about SX, myself? It suggests to me that the midi clock signal is being affected by the export process.

[ten]

Strange, the arps seem a lot better for me since 1.05 using sx 3.1.1.

ten

[~+?]

Yep Use Delay Compensation is ticked for Virus TI and all other plugins. For virus TI it says under (Delay Sample) 2560. dont know if that?s relevant or not?

[~+?]

Originally Posted by ben crosland

Actually, upon further investigation, I've been getting strange behaviour with SX3, too.

I set up a brand new project, and put down two tracks - one playing single notes, the other playing alongside, but with an arpeggiator instead.

Playback absolutely tight as.

Tried an Audio Mixdown - same.

Subsequent attempts however, were not - the arp did indeed play behind.

Every time I just play the sequence though, the timing is absolutely perfect.

I have to wonder whether this is something weird about SX, myself? It suggests to me that the midi clock signal is being affected by the export process.

I have the exact same symptoms with my Polar as Ben!

[ben crosland]

For the record, a comparative test in Logic 5.5.1 showed no such anomalies.

Arp remained perfectly in time during multiple exports.

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by ten

Strange, the arps seem a lot better for me since 1.05 using sx 3.1.1.

ten

Same here - the arps are spot on during playback. SX3 must be doing something strange with the midi clock during export, if you ask me. Non-arpeggiated sounds are just as tight during export as playback - it's only the arps, which rely on midi clock to stay in sync.

[~+?]

Been using Cubase since version 1 back on the Atari. I would be a bit lost if I had to change to logic now. Midi clock is loosing sync on SX3 for sure but there must be a reason? find the reason and the fix cant be far.

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by ~+?

Been using Cubase since version 1 back on the Atari. I would be a bit lost if I had to change to logic now. Midi clock is loosing sync on SX3 for sure but there must be a reason? find the reason and the fix cant be far.

No - I wasn't suggesting you change to Logic. TBH that would be crazy unless you went to Mac, as it is unsupported on the PC.

I mentioned it simply because the fact that there is no difference in arp sync between playback and export (or bounce as it is called in Logic) suggests that the problem most likely lies with SX3 itself and not with the TI.

At any rate, wherever the problem lies, we can only wait while it is addressed by whomever is responsible.

In the meantime - how about a workaround?

Since it looks to me like the arp offset is pretty consistent, I would suggest for now that you export the arp track(s) separately, and then realign them with the rest of the mix afterwards.

[~+?]

Well at least we can work around it for now; this was not possible in v103 it sounds like a fixable problem. BTW does access sell wooden sides for the Polar? :P Wooden and more flush with the keys would be good. like on moogs, more protection for the keys!

[grs]

Originally Posted by ben crosland

No - I wasn't suggesting you change to Logic. TBH that would be crazy unless you went to Mac, as it is unsupported on the PC.

I mentioned it simply because the fact that there is no difference in arp sync between playback and export (or bounce as it is called in Logic) suggests that the problem most likely lies with SX3 itself and not with the TI.

At any rate, wherever the problem lies, we can only wait while it is addressed by whomever is responsible.

In the meantime - how about a workaround?

Since it looks to me like the arp offset is pretty consistent, I would suggest for now that you export the arp track(s) separately, and then realign them with the rest of the mix afterwards.

Just use a recording plug in the main outputs, ie voxengo recorder - free.
If your forced to do real time exports anyway why not just do that. It would be 1 to 1 the same thing.