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Old 16.12.2004, 04:38 PM
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Hey XLR8a -

Lighten up. This is a discussion forum. No need to be talking to me like I'm your bitch.
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I use Sonar 4.0 and Wave Lab 5 to master my tracks.
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Hey XLR8a -

Lighten up. This is a discussion forum. No need to be talking to me like I'm your bitch.
Sorry if my previous post was a bit rude,
i just decided to take a part in this discussion because
what you posted sounded to me like disinformation in one way or another.

My point is that every sequencer sounds very different in summing audio,
and the device called "soundcard" have much more factors that affect the
sound than an AD converter.

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I use Sonar 4.0 and Wave Lab 5 to master my tracks.
What style of music do you work on?
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5inusoid: chill down mate; i think he didn't mean anything bad.

And you are right; this is an discution-forum.

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Sorry -

I'm a bit high strung, in case you haven't noticed.

Anyway, yes Audio Summing.

So you're saying SX does this better than VST 5.1?

I've even heard of people taking tracks out of their DAW -
out of their computer to mix and render.
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Sorry -

I'm a bit high strung, in case you haven't noticed.

Anyway, yes Audio Summing.

So you're saying SX does this better than VST 5.1?

I've even heard of people taking tracks out of their DAW -
out of their computer to mix and render.
I don't think that SX is better than 5.1 in audio summing, or otherwice!
The problem is that they sounds too different to each other, and very different
compared to other sequencers like Logic, ProTools or MaxMSP.
Why i see a problem with this ?
Because if i used to a certain sequencer to get the desired results -
i can't get same results in other sequencer, i wish they was all sounding
the same, but they not. Before the bounce it may sound good, but once
you bounce down VST - you hear the damn difference !
I know some people who spend lots of $ on external analogue summing
boxes like:
Dangerous 2-BUS



or The SumThang by InnerTubeAudio


just because they can get the desired mixing results,
no matter what sequencer they use to bounce VST.

There is another point in using analogue summing, is the "blending" effect
that very hard to get in digital domain, because digital summing usually
sounds too artificial compared to quality analogue one.

There was lots of discussions over the internet about this subject,
but it's still seems to be a "grey area" for most producers...

If you have a quality monitoring environment and a good ear, you can do
some A/B testing by mixing down a project with same mixer and plugin
settings on same soundcard, but in different sequencers, and then compare
the results by using your ears and frequency analyzer - you'll be amazed !

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