New fag here. Access Virus t1 or t2?

[Synthisternation]

I'm about to get "Infekted" for the first time. I'm a little hard up on money right now, but desperately in need of a new synth. I wanted something more extreme then my Fantom x8 which I love, but it simply is too "pretty". I thought a virus would solve my issues with taking hours to come up with harsh sounds. So, my question to you guys is. Virus t1 or t2. I'm working out a deal and I can score a used t1 in excellent condition for $1,850. Or, I can save for another month or two and front another grand and buy a t2 for $2,850(this would break the bank by far). Is a t2 worth the extra grand? I read that its OS has some issues, but I can see that getting solved in the not so distant future. Its atomizor sounds nice, but I doubt I'd use it that often. Does the t2 have more patches? Does it's 25% cpu boost make a noticeable difference? I've been doing my homework, but I need some real input from you guys.

Thanks!

[Timo]

Originally Posted by Synthisternation

Does the t2 have more patches? Does it's 25% cpu boost make a noticeable difference? I've been doing my homework, but I need some real input from you guys.

Thanks!

Hi there, presently there's no difference between TI|1 and TI|2 specifications, except the 25% CPU boost (resulting in slightly higher poly). The number of patches, the sound engine, everything is the same. However some have said the TI|2 is slightly more stable when under greater load.

Also, no-one knows if Access may take the TI|2 someplace that the TI|1 wont, at some point.

[Synthisternation]

That sounds kinda strange, why would they simply give it a cpu boost? Was the t1 lacking in power? And isn't the atomizer a new feature? Or, can you do this with the t1? Do you just update your t1's os to get this new feature?

Thank you for the quick reply!

[izimizam]

YES ! many of the problems with early ' os ' were NOT os issues , they were issues related to the dsp being over driven and access having no fail safe mechanism in the os or buffering......the ti2 i feel was partly to answer this problem , its a great shame but the ti1 is underpowered for good multi mode work using complex parts , in single mode its spot on , in multi mode if you use complex parts its not poly thats the issue its dsp power , hence the ti2.......also hence the snow..........i cant see access taking the ti2 further unless they allow user upgradable dsp chips in the machine , next up i am guessing with be the ti3 - user sample flash rom and maybe 100% more power than the ti 1........it does sound kinda strange doesnt it releasing a new machine with 25% more cpu . . . its all good though .....

[quote=Synthisternation;292953]That sounds kinda strange, why would they simply give it a cpu boost? Was the t1 lacking in power?

[Toby Snowby]

Keep the fantom..

Save the money on the virus.. Its a joke..

Its not even real analog.. If i were you consider getting a DSI evolver (2 real analog osc's) and using that with your fantom..

You need to learn how to use the sampler on the fantom.. and also resample with a distortion FX on it..

Thats all you need to know really..... Trust me.. If you buy the virus your still spend hours getting souds out of it..

When you know how to get the sounds you want, your be able to get them from anything... Apart from Reason and about 80% of software thats wack..

[Timo]

Yep, TI|1 can do Atomizer, the whole shebang.

Access stated with the TI2 that they're taking a different route with the TI|1 over previous Viruses. That they will take the TI|1 as far as they can do alongside TI|2, rather than just dump it with resources still spare. So they included OS v3 to the TI|1 range too.

At the moment it's less clear as to exactly what Access' intentions are with the TI|2... Whether it is a "refresh" or slightly updated version of the TI|1, or whether the TI|2 will actually go further than the TI|1 given time and have new Operating Systems and functionality. Absolutely none of us here know, and it muddies the water a bit, particularly so with the undue price differences at retail between mk1 and mk2 (although Access have categorically said that they haven't altered the wholesale price between mk1 and 2).

But, at this present point in time, the differences really are a 25% CPU boost, and a redesigned, lighter chassis (in terms of weight). The front panel user interface remains the same.

[Synthisternation]

Originally Posted by Timo

Yep, TI|1 can do Atomizer, the whole shebang.

Access stated with the TI2 that they're taking a different route with the TI|1 over previous Viruses. That they will take the TI|1 as far as they can do alongside TI|2, rather than just dump it with resources still spare. So they included OS v3 to the TI|1 range too.

It's less clear as to exactly what Access' intentions are with the TI|2... Whether it is just a "refresh" or slightly updated version of the TI|1, or whether the TI|2 will actually go further than the TI|1 given time and have new Operating Systems. Absolutely none of us here know, and it muddies the water a bit, particularly so with the price differences at retail between mk1 and mk2 (although Access have categorically said that they haven't altered the wholesale price between mk1 and 2).

But, at this present point in time, the differences really are a 25% CPU boost, and a redesigned, lighter chassis (in terms of weight). The front panel user interface remains the same.

I understand most of what you said with the exception of "mk1 / mk2". I don't know what this means. How much was the t1 when it came out? I think I'm going to buy this used one. Viruses have always done well over time. Seems like they hold their value. So I doubt theres going to be any substantial difference between then t1 and t2 in the future. We wont know for sure though. I appreciate your honesty.

[Doc Jones]

yeah they definitely hold their value. In the case of the TI ver 1, it actually increased in value. When I bought mine new in late 2005, I paid $1,590.00 US for it! It's crazy how expensive the TI and its bigger brother have gotten.

[Synthisternation]

Originally Posted by Doc Jones

yeah they definitely hold their value. In the case of the TI ver 1, it actually increased in value. When I bought mine new in late 2005, I paid $1,590.00 US for it! It's crazy how expensive the TI and its bigger brother have gotten.

You paid $1,600 for it new???

[Doc Jones]

Originally Posted by Synthisternation

You paid $1,600 for it new???

yeah, I preordered it from NovaMusik in late 2004 for that price. By the time the TI finally became available in late 2005 the price had gone up but Nova honored their original price.