Virus TI and export ( how 'bounce' works with the TI) ?

[MADSTATION]

ddp...I believe that the TI is NOT USB2. It is USB1.1 and COMPATIBLE with USB2 ports, but still at the 1.1 speed.

[Merlot]

Originally Posted by Merlot

USB 2.0 ports are backwards compatible with 1.1.

This is AFAIK. Dont know, maybe someone from ACCESS could chime in.

[ten]

That is correct, usb1 hardware (99% of the time) is compatible with usb2 ports. Meaning you can plug any usb1 device into a usb2 port and it will work just dandy.

Usb1 speed is 12mb, usb2 is 480mb. If you have a usb1 system ONLY all usb devices will be sharing that 12mb together, they dont have 12 each device which I guess would cause problems when using the TI at its full sound output capacity with other usb devices.

Its not to clear on the access website at all, but basically the TI is usb1 spec and speed but will work in usb2 slots. I personally would of liked them to put a higher price on the TI, spend more time working on it and have at least 8 outputs (preferably 16) using usb2 speeds instead of the 3 outputs we are going to have now........ ah well, maybe for TI-2

ten

[scr]

We still don't know if we can bounce those TI tracks in real time .

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by scr

We still don't know if we can bounce those TI tracks in real time .

Maybe Access doesn't know yet either.

Joke by the way.

[mcoyote]

USB1 is going to be pushing it with -- what was it? -- two stereo out pairs and one stereo in + MIDI + any other control protocols they built for the VST integration. I'm guessing you get the stereo in pair at a decent sample rate and bandwidth, MIDI, and VST control but that's it.

Still a lot of capability.

[Merlot]

Worst come to worst, you can always bounce midi from it the traditional way via the outoputs. Might save some bandwith on it too.

[ddp]

Originally Posted by ten

Its not to clear on the access website at all, but basically the TI is usb1 spec and speed but will work in usb2 slots. I personally would of liked them to put a higher price on the TI, spend more time working on it and have at least 8 outputs (preferably 16) using usb2 speeds instead of the 3 outputs we are going to have now........ ah well, maybe for TI-2

If that's true, then I'd argue that their website is misleading. They say the TI's, "Compatible with USB 2.0 specifications, USB and High-Speed USB devices" and that implies it's a USB 2 device. You'd never say an older device was "compatible" with a newer protocol; it's the other way around -- being "compatible" with USB 2 means it's a USB 2 device.

But perhaps this is lost in the translation... If so, let's hope they go for Firewire on the TI-2!

[Merlot]

ddp,
check this thread out.

[ben crosland]

Originally Posted by ddp

If that's true, then I'd argue that their website is misleading. They say the TI's, "Compatible with USB 2.0 specifications, USB and High-Speed USB devices" and that implies it's a USB 2 device. You'd never say an older device was "compatible" with a newer protocol; it's the other way around -- being "compatible" with USB 2 means it's a USB 2 device.

Apparently there were compatibility problems when USB2.0 was first introduced, which meant that some USB devices didn't work properly with USB2.0 interfaces. The wording in the specs is, AFAIK, exactly what the USB society told Access they should write concerning this issue.