Wich settings are important to create these "screaming" synth sounds?

[erol]

Hi,

Could someone please tell me wich settings are important to create these "screaming" synth sounds?

@2:30
http://youtu.be/NsGEX_CFqwQ

@2:30
http://youtu.be/uNJ-mMBnYi0

@0:25
http://youtu.be/cBJb4Y22kpA

@1:00
http://youtu.be/9FJ6LH7r0IE

Thank you.

[hard o logic]

I would like to know that too!
If anyone has a idea or startingpoint it also be nice.

[MBTC]

The three main things are (1) portamento (its the pitch movement that mostly gives it the tearing sound), (2) distortion of the signal - however you go about that, but any waveshaping can potentially get you the characteristic you're seeking... Bitcrushers, granularizers, etc.. that's what gives it the raw hardstyle edge effect.. Use that to ride the fine line between noise and tone. (3) reverb reverb reverb.

I just got Z3TA 2, which improves upon the original but was always known for it's wave-mangling capabilities (see #2 above), and I only started playing around with it because I've been spending a lot of time learning Logic on the Mac (and Z3TA is PC only like a lot of good synths), but it seems to be perfect for this category of sounds (any type of trance sound really), because of how easily it lets you distort the oscillators in all kinds of creative ways.

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/Z3TA/

[Hammond124]

Sounds similar to a Polyvox, a analog synth from the USSR with a really aggressive filter.

In terms of making the sounds, try playing with your cutoff and resonance, and distorting the filter.

[MBTC]

If you like the Polyvox (aka Polivoks) sound, check out the Sawer plug-in from Imageline (not meant to be an exact emulation of it, but based on the same architecture). Some of the default presets have the rapid portamento effect I mentioned which will bring this type of sound to mind.

http://www.image-line.com/documents/sawer.html

[Hammond124]

Oh Wow, Cheers MBTC. That plugin looks awesome.

[erol]

Thank you for all replies.
Could someone try to remake some of these sounds please?
MBTC maybe?

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by erol

Thank you for all replies.
Could someone try to remake some of these sounds please?
MBTC maybe?

I don't have a Virus at the moment, and unfortunately also very short on free time, but you could take the Zebra2 or Sylenth1 patches I posted in the other thread, and you could either take those a very long way toward what you want or use them to learn how to duplicate same type of sound in the Virus. Both of those patches had some of the core characteristics you want. Play around with the three settings I've mentioned and I bet you'll get close. If the VC software is getting in the way or the control surface of the Virus is holding you back, try achieving the sound with a soft synth to get a feel for what which parameters you need to tweak then try to achieve same on Virus.

Believe it or not you can take almost any saw based patch into this kind of screeching territory pretty easily, it's mostly a matter of getting the portamento right and playing at the right octave (depending on porta speed you sometimes want to play a lower octave with the left hand to get the tearing effect), but the main scream is always a high octave.

[hard o logic]

This is my try!
I made this with headphone so i don't know how it sounds on speakers.

http://www30.zippyshare.com/v/79559251/file.html

[erol]

Originally Posted by hard o logic

This is my try!
I made this with headphone so i don't know how it sounds on speakers.

http://www30.zippyshare.com/v/79559251/file.html

sounds nice! could you please share how you made this? did you made the sound with the Virus?
btw, did you also made the kick yourself?