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Old 19.02.2006, 11:59 PM
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I almost decided to buy a Virus C at ebay instead of a Virus TI. There's only one thing that prevents me from doing it, it's the hypersaw. Is there any difference between the ordinary saw with 8 unison and the hypersaw (with 8 saws)?

Could someone record both examples and post it here? That would help me make my decision much...
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Old 20.02.2006, 05:35 AM
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1 voice with hypersaw set at 8 saws will only use one note of polyphony. This will also go through the filter section once and will have no unison spread. An 8 voiced unison saw will have 8 single saws going through 8 filters and be spreadable. Tip, to get a phat 8 saw with hypersaw use 2 note unison with 4 saw hypersaw osc and unison spread that.
So I'd say they are pretty similar, yet the only audible difference is that the amount of filter smearing is less on the hypersaw example. IE cleaner.
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Old 20.02.2006, 09:47 AM
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You're forgetting the sub + sync part of Hypersaw here, which cannot be emulated very well at all by earlier models.

That and the WAVETABLES!!

Hang in there, Doc...
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That and the WAVETABLES!!
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I listened to some of them when I was in Z?rich, but somehow they didn't impress me. But I gotta stress that I didn't go through all of them, only a couple randomeously...
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Hang in there, Doc...
hmm, the sync algorhythm is definitely an argument
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Any particular usage for Sync with hypersaw sounds?

I usually use sync more on mono sounds than on fat leads. Maybe I'm missing something.
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you can creat some very cool screaming sounds using sync,not just "that" clasic Arp or Prophent 1\5 mono sync lead.
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I guess that with a little creativity you could route an 8 voiced unison saw with no panspread from one output to the input and though the filters for a hypersaw like effect. Worth a try
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While I can't comment on the TI vs. other Virus models' hypersaw, I own a Roland JP-8000 and the TI completely blows it's "Super Saw" out of the water.

Hell, it blows it off the planet and leaves it someplace past Pluto.
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That and the WAVETABLES!!
hehe
I listened to some of them when I was in Z?rich, but somehow they didn't impress me. But I gotta stress that I didn't go through all of them, only a couple randomeously...
My only winge with the wave tables is I wish Access included a few more instrument sample based waves such as those in the KS-Rack.

Theres alot of harmonic variation in there, but I rarely find any that are useful in a classic VA context in the same way as I find the waves in the KS-Rack useful. The wave tables are very good for doing the standard wave traversal type thing, and messing with the index/sweep you can get alot of timbres out of each. I do like the wave traversal trippy pads you can easily create.

I have a feeling that it will take me quite a while to find a new niche with the virus waves. It took a while for me to really get to appreciate them in the KS-Rack and start experimenting with them alot - now I use them alot.
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