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Old 28.01.2009, 08:32 AM
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I've been holding my tongue because I didn't want to go off-topic, but the vitriol is building and I thought I'd try to expel it in a controlled way, in a thread all of its own.
I hope I do not offend anyone.. :S

But anyway. Here goes.


I hate macs. Hate them.

I hate the very idea of them. I hate Steve Jobs with the pure, burning rage of ages. I hate Apple's products, their marketing strategy, their little catch phrases and the mac fanboys who rave about how amazing their computers are and that they "never crash" and "can't get viruses".

I hate the fact that Apple refuse to adopt many of the global standards that allow different components to work with other components like all other personal computer manufacturers do - paving the way for the manufacturers of dedicated aftermarket components to flourish. I hate the Mac mouse and the ridiculously contrived user interface. I HATE the propensity to put "i" before every single product, as if this somehow makes it more Advanced. iPod, iPhone, iMac, iHate.

I hate their logo and I hate the vomituous "cutesy appeal" Apple tried to use to sell more machines. I hate the stupidity of claiming "it just works" when sites like macfixit.com exist. Most of all, I HATE that several leading effects manufacturers like Lexicon only really support Macs and write drivers for the PC as an afterthought, skimping on features and preventing the use of their product in full to anyone with the audicity to choose PC.

Hate. Hate. HATE.


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Old 28.01.2009, 09:15 AM
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I've been holding my tongue because I didn't want to go off-topic, but the vitriol is building and I thought I'd try to expel it in a controlled way, in a thread all of its own.
I hope I do not offend anyone.. :S

But anyway. Here goes.


I hate macs. Hate them.

I hate the very idea of them. I hate Steve Jobs with the pure, burning rage of ages. I hate Apple's products, their marketing strategy, their little catch phrases and the mac fanboys who rave about how amazing their computers are and that they "never crash" and "can't get viruses".

I hate the fact that Apple refuse to adopt many of the global standards that allow different components to work with other components like all other personal computer manufacturers do - paving the way for the manufacturers of dedicated aftermarket components to flourish. I hate the Mac mouse and the ridiculously contrived user interface. I HATE the propensity to put "i" before every single product, as if this somehow makes it more Advanced. iPod, iPhone, iMac, iHate.

I hate their logo and I hate the vomituous "cutesy appeal" Apple tried to use to sell more machines. I hate the stupidity of claiming "it just works" when sites like macfixit.com exist. Most of all, I HATE that several leading effects manufacturers like Lexicon only really support Macs and write drivers for the PC as an afterthought, skimping on features and preventing the use of their product in full to anyone with the audicity to choose PC.

Hate. Hate. HATE.


Ok, I'm done.



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the difference between a mac user and a pc user is: a pc user HATE mac users, a mac user can understand the frustration of a pc user so he can't hate him... eheheh I agree that the marketing is awful, but as an ex pc user I simply I won't go back to MS world until they product will work.
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Old 28.01.2009, 09:27 AM
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What aspect of PCs did you find didn't work?


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Old 28.01.2009, 09:43 AM
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Please hate Mac's if you wish. There's plenty to hate about Macs as well as Windows. There's plenty of hate for everyone to share. And let's hate Linux while we are at it.

Try reading appleinsider.com's review of Windows 7. Perhaps Apple is more standards than you think, and perhaps the OS is better too. I don't know because I'm not you, but there's plenty of hate for everything.

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Old 28.01.2009, 09:59 AM
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Heh. I do realise I am being somewhat irrational. There are worse things to have an irrational hatred of though, I guess. It feels good, oddly attractive, to lay verbal waste to stuff.

On Windows 7, I've seen demos of it but I remain unconvinced. So far it looks just like Vista, but optimised for touch-screens and stealing all the UI ideas from the iphone.



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Old 28.01.2009, 10:32 AM
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Windows 7 appears to be a service pack update of Vista with a new look and name to distance it from the bad reactions to Vista. Read up on appleinsider, there's some thought provoking comments on it. I have both macs and pc's because I would rather install updates than have a life.

Please keep up the irrationality though, I didn't mean to squash creativity with a superior-than-thou post (which mine seems to be on second read)

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Not at all, good sir. You should see what some other Mac users have to say.. They practically create the hatred all on their own from their overenthusiastic holier-than-thou approach. I think Maddox summarised the situation quite well.. [NOT safe for work]

Also on the updates thing, I currently look after around 30 different computers in total as part of my job, so updates are a big part of my life.. :P


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there is an aspect that is wrong in all these kind of argument... mac is a piece of hardware, pc is a piece of hardware, MS is software. So if we want to make comparison we should compare osx to windows and about this comparison I can only tell you that the latest osx version runs on old machines without problems, no crash, no rebootings, no kernel panic of any sort. Why? just cos osx is made for the harware apple produce. Windows is builded to work on any pc and obviously it simply fails like osx would fail if it was built for any pc.
what about hardware? well maybe mac are overpriced but you just don't pay for hardware but for software and its integration too. I don't bother the kind of advertisement made by apple, I just want something that works well and I couldn't find a single pc with windows that can browse internet without any risks and gives me the possibility to record without crashing problems. Something more... I like motu and digital performer... so I can't simply use a pc. If I'd have to use autocad I'll be a pc guy... simply I chose what I need more and what is perfect for my needs.
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Did you know, when you go from A to Z, Mac's 'M' comes before PC's 'P'....and Apple's 'A' comes before Microsoft's 'M'. Who woulda thunk?

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Old 28.01.2009, 01:17 PM
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If your PC is crashing, the reason 99% of the time is hardware failure (which happens to Macs too) or incorrect configuration, which doesn't afflict macs as much because they are aimed at people who aren't naturally good at computers. This is both a blessing and a curse - it is harder to get set up a PC correctly, but you can do a lot more with it.. Moreover, you can control _exactly_ which components go into it.

The other 1% of the time is due to bad coding. This hasn't really been an issue since XP launched over 10 years ago, so we can discount that from modern music PCs unless you are using some obscure sequencing software or something..

Viruses and malware on the PC are rife because it is the most popular platform - who wants to write a virus for an operating system hardly anyone uses? But it is ridiculously easy to stay safe online, even if you do opt not to run antivirus software. All it takes is a bit of common sense. The people that get viruses on their computers from opening suspicious .exe attachments in an email they received from an unknown sender and a mysterious mail body containing what appears to be a russian translation of porn fantasy involving snow white and the 7 dwarfs, are probably better off with a Mac anyway..
(not to say that is always the reason - it does sometimes happen and isn't really the users fault, for example if their kid uses the computer..)

My new DAW is proud to run Windows XP. :>


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