Access Future,hardware or software or both?

[to-pse]

Originally Posted by Berni

So what are you disputing? VC is a great piece of software?

Like I wrote in my reponse I dispute that Access is not able to write
solid, reliable software - as obviously the Virus itself (since the A
version in the 90s) is primarily software.

I could repeat my whole post again, but the essence is that there
are various kinds of software:

a.) embedded software (stuff in the virus)
b.) system-level software (USB-drivers for TI-integration)
c.) user-space software (VSTi plugin)

And at least in the part a.) they know how to deliver!

But especially the b.) part is tricky to get right (again like I wrote
in my last post).

Look how many companies still struggle to provide high-performance,
reliable drivers even after years in the business.

It might be that Access overstrained themselves in this task, but it
seems that the quality of the integration has improved over time.

Tobias

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by Berni

Hey its a public forum, say what you want...the haters dont make any music with it anyway so fuck em ; )

I know, but the point of my presence here is for information exchange. When I have something to contribute (usually sound design or generally synth oriented but not specific to the Virus), I try to help others out. If I own a Virus one day, I would visit here to benefit from others' experience, so I do not really want to isolate myself from those folks or build up a hate club that ignores everything I say because they think I'm always going to say something negative about the Virus.

Beyond that there is nothing anyone could say over an internet forum that's going to irk me or make a difference between me having a good or crappy day

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by feedingear

You are welcome and entitled to your opinion. I just think that with less then a months experience on the virus before you returned it (for your reasons youve stated), there are a few areas you post about (sound quality as in relation to VSTS etc) that its hard to give you credibility for, particularly without getting to hear your own music/production output as a way for others to judge your level of expertise. My 2c.

That's largely because between my job, dating & social life, and the rest of life's time-sinks, I have not had the time to complete a fully produced track I'm proud of in a very long time, so posting a full musical track is not necessarily indicative of my expertise, it would only be a demonstration of my emphasis on melodies and prove that I still have a long way to go before I am good at mixing. And since I've never aspired to be a professional musician or DJ I am not motivated to spend a lot of time on the art of mixing when I just enjoy creating melodic trance as a sort of therapeutical exercise.

When it comes to sound design, it is easier to post small snippets of examples, to illustrate a point. And I did that as recently as a couple of weeks ago.

[Berni]

Originally Posted by to-pse

Like I wrote in my reponse I dispute that Access is not able to write
solid, reliable software - as obviously the Virus itself (since the A
version in the 90s) is primarily software.

I could repeat my whole post again, but the essence is that there
are various kinds of software:

a.) embedded software (stuff in the virus)
b.) system-level software (USB-drivers for TI-integration)
c.) user-space software (VSTi plugin)

And at least in the part a.) they know how to deliver!

But especially the b.) part is tricky to get right (again like I wrote
in my last post).

Look how many companies still struggle to provide high-performance,
reliable drivers even after years in the business.

It might be that Access overstrained themselves in this task, but it
seems that the quality of the integration has improved over time.

Tobias

Yeah I got it the first time...what your saying is that they can write software for the synth they manufacture, & lets face it, not much good without it, although it has had a lot of problems. But the other stuff, the 'tricky' kind...not so much. I concur...
They HAVE been at this for years btw...

[zahush76]

There are several things access must add to their next generation virus. Some of the features are already out there on other synths:

1) The firs most important improvement is adding the ability to upload user samples and be able to manipulate them. This feature can be found on the waldorf blofeld, nord wave and solaris. It is definetly the time for the virus to join that wagon.

2) It seems that a lot of synths today have more of everything. So more lfo's, more envelopes (with more stages), an "everythin modulates everything" matrix etc.