Trance Lead

[MADSTATION]

I will post the patch when I get home

[hatembr]

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS

Ive commented a few times on the inherent Virus dull/dark sonic character. Its not something that can be changed without a total reprogramming I guess.

Thats why its pretty hard to make convincing 80's happy synth pop sounds on the Virus.......but in its favour....thats why the Virus is so good at darker styles of music.

DS

that's right, i rememebr you said it DS, but i also remember in one post, marc suggested the use of the Eq to make it sound brighter! and he is right too
C users should not forget their Virus is equiped with an Eq, personally i use it in almost every patch, and it drasticaly changes the sound!

[Wandering Kid]

yea but when you make huge boosts on an EQ to change the fundamental properties of a particular sound you eat up your own headroom. if you make significant cuts on an EQ to that same sound you will take something away from it and it will lose part of its energy. most of the time i ever use EQs its a trade off. im either sacrificing headroom or trying to gain it. in somewhat rarer instances i EQ very tentatively just to shape some of the sound that i couldnt on a filter. when i try to gain headroom i come to the inevitable question of what part of the sound i want to dominate, which parts to recess and which synth parts wil cover up some of the recessed sound as a result of heavy EQing.

virus is dark out of the box. its bassy out of the box. its arguably what it does best - why fight it?!

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by hatembr

C users should not forget their Virus is equiped with an Eq, personally i use it in almost every patch, and it drasticaly changes the sound!

Yep me too Hatembr. It's a great way to cut corners when programming sounds on the C. Luckily the VC EQ sounds quite good too.

About boosting EQ......Personaly, I never boost EQ in the C (or on the desk for that matter). I've always found it's better to cut EQ, then boost the overall signal.

[hatembr]

yep agree, thats what Wandering Kid said too, boosting may eat the headroom, but i think it depends on the sound actually, for certain dark sounds, it is good to boost the high freq a little to make them brighter, but generally, as u said, i use it to cut down some freq.
in my case i have only the VC as a hard synth and some VSTs, but when comparing the sounds, the VC is far away better and warmer, so i feel like forced to use the Eq to change the sound and make it brighter than using a VST to achieve the same sound.

[BlueSwan]

Some awesome patches in this thread. What we (read: I) need is for y'all to post these patches, regardless of whether they're done on a Virus (have one), the JP-8000 (have one) or the Pro-53 (have it). But what's the use of having loads of equipment, when you're crap at sound programming and don't have the time to get into it?

[MADSTATION]

preset for pro53:
www.madstation.net/pro53_supersaw_by_Icone.fxp

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

I second the notion of Eq cutting is a bit better than boosting overall. However, Im a little dubious to using too much eq'ing because to my ears it does fundementally change the sounds characteristic (well i guess thats the intention!). But.....I prefer more naturally 'bright' synths for bright sounds (i.e. Nord 3, Jupiter 8 etc).

But at the end of the day its not a problem. Synths need to have character.....and luckily the Virus has one all of its own. Depending on your tastes......the Virus can either be the dogs bollox (i.e. just what you need!) or it can represent the antichrist....in that you will struggle to get the kinda tones your after. Having 2 or 3 synths eradicates this 'issue'.

Personally im going to buy the Virus TI....because I know what im letting myself in for.

DS

[BlueSwan]

Originally Posted by MADSTATION

preset for pro53:
www.madstation.net/pro53_supersaw_by_Icone.fxp

I'm an idiot! Doesn't the Pro-53 only read ".p5f" format patches??

[harrystainer]

dont use pro-53 to open the patch, in your vst host use "load instrument" to load the patch and you'll be away