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Originally Posted by ~+?
You said that a year ago before the TI was even out? before anyone had even heard it? Thats really strange..
Dont tell me you have a jp8000 and no TI.
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Does it really matter that the TI wasn't out a year ago when I said that if so many people were already talking about hypersaw killing supersaw in those days? Wasn't I allowed to say what I thought? _Nobody_ had heard the TI.
There were many threads about the TI killing JP80x0 and the hypersaw totally replacing the JP Supersaw right after Access had introduced the TI. I said that the hypersaw will NOT replace JP supersaw and definitely will not sound like supersaw but many people really thought that hypersaw will sound like JP supersaw. I haven't heard these people saying the same anymore. I wonder why...Maybe they realised that those waveforms don't sound the same afterall and these 2 synths sound totally different also because of their different sounding filters.
Even Ben Crosland didn't see much difference between TI hypersaw and JP supersaw or understood how much the filter affects the sound and why so many people like JP's filter and what is it that really makes JP to sound so unique. Finally Ben admitted that he doesn't know much about JP and what makes it sound so special in trance music (especially the filter character).
I don't have a TI , but I have alot of experience of Virus synthesizers (B, KC, Powercore) and the sound is totally different from JP and the TI's hypersaw doesn't sound much different. And one thing is still sure, it doesn't sound like JP supersaw. And the filter is the final thing which makes it sound totally different also when you're not opening or closing the cutoff. I have a JP and many other synths and I know how to program those trance pads and leads so I am very familiar with what we're talking about here.
Virus can do great leads and pads for trance but it doesn't sound like JP. In fact I don't even see a point trying to make it sound like a JP because you can buy a real JP with less than a half of the TI's price and you'll get the great original sound immediately.
I listened to the "popsclick.mp3" and it's a good sound but also a good example where you hear that the virus lacks the highest frequencies even when the cutoff is open. The PWFatty-patch uses PWM pulses, not saw waves. If you want to get close to the original JP sound, you must use saw waves and unison. 2 saw oscillators with 7 voice unison or 2 hypersaws are good to start with.