TI vs JP8K: Hypersaw as bright as Supersaw (audio inside)?.. - Page 2 - The Unofficial Access Virus & Virus TI Forum

~+? · #11 22.11.2005, 06:05 AM

My OSC on this patch is is trying to turn into Donald Duck for some reason.

F5D · #12 22.11.2005, 08:54 AM

Like I said a year ago, you cannot do the JP8k supersaw pads or leads with Virus TI's hypersaw. They sound totally different.

~+? · #13 22.11.2005, 03:28 PM

You said that a year ago before the TI was even out? before anyone had even heard it? Thats really strange..

Can we have this weeks loto numbers while your here? why not give us next years loto as well. cheers

Dont tell me you have a jp8000 and no TI.

MADSTATION · #14 22.11.2005, 03:34 PM

I'm almost done moving to my new place so it might take a couple of days before I can record something but I will look into that(I own both jp8080 and virusTI)

~+? · #15 23.11.2005, 02:34 AM

I found a better patch for it! (ROM-MM 82 PWFattty MS)

Sounds very nice tweaked and played TD style

Dance123 · #16 23.11.2005, 08:45 AM

Hi,

Could you all please post more audio demos of the results you get with the TI so I can compare with the JP8000 demo mentioned in the first message. Just posting preset numbers alone doesn't help alot as my local music store doesn't have a demo TI in store at this moment, so I can't demo it. That's why I am asking for good audio demos from you guys.

But if you do post audio demos, it's a good idea to also post info like which patch you used and which alterations you made etc..

Thanks alot!

Dance123 · #17 23.11.2005, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grs

I'd say play a TI and use patch ROM-M 63 Ld StrngzMS.

Adjust the delay feedback and send to suit and its 98% the same sound.
Maybe untune the detune a bit. MS always likes the DETUNE the german way.

Could you please post a good audio demo so I can hear and compare the result with the JP8000 demo posted in first message? Thanks!

~+? · #18 23.11.2005, 09:47 AM

I did one with that ROM-M 63 Ld StrngzMS patch here.. http://bryncoedstudio.bulldoghome.co...Popsclicks.mp3

But i think the other patch (ROM-MM 82 PWFattty MS) this one sounds very close!

F5D · #19 23.11.2005, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~+?

You said that a year ago before the TI was even out? before anyone had even heard it? Thats really strange..

Dont tell me you have a jp8000 and no TI.

Does it really matter that the TI wasn't out a year ago when I said that if so many people were already talking about hypersaw killing supersaw in those days? Wasn't I allowed to say what I thought? _Nobody_ had heard the TI.

There were many threads about the TI killing JP80x0 and the hypersaw totally replacing the JP Supersaw right after Access had introduced the TI. I said that the hypersaw will NOT replace JP supersaw and definitely will not sound like supersaw but many people really thought that hypersaw will sound like JP supersaw. I haven't heard these people saying the same anymore. I wonder why...Maybe they realised that those waveforms don't sound the same afterall and these 2 synths sound totally different also because of their different sounding filters.

Even Ben Crosland didn't see much difference between TI hypersaw and JP supersaw or understood how much the filter affects the sound and why so many people like JP's filter and what is it that really makes JP to sound so unique. Finally Ben admitted that he doesn't know much about JP and what makes it sound so special in trance music (especially the filter character).

I don't have a TI , but I have alot of experience of Virus synthesizers (B, KC, Powercore) and the sound is totally different from JP and the TI's hypersaw doesn't sound much different. And one thing is still sure, it doesn't sound like JP supersaw. And the filter is the final thing which makes it sound totally different also when you're not opening or closing the cutoff. I have a JP and many other synths and I know how to program those trance pads and leads so I am very familiar with what we're talking about here.

Virus can do great leads and pads for trance but it doesn't sound like JP. In fact I don't even see a point trying to make it sound like a JP because you can buy a real JP with less than a half of the TI's price and you'll get the great original sound immediately.

I listened to the "popsclick.mp3" and it's a good sound but also a good example where you hear that the virus lacks the highest frequencies even when the cutoff is open. The PWFatty-patch uses PWM pulses, not saw waves. If you want to get close to the original JP sound, you must use saw waves and unison. 2 saw oscillators with 7 voice unison or 2 hypersaws are good to start with.

DIGITAL SCREAMS · #20 23.11.2005, 10:10 AM

At 19-20 seconds that Ti demo doesnt sound right....you got some warbling tuning issue with that patch. Anyone else hear it?

PS - why do people keep wanting the Virus' hypersaw to emulate a JP's supersaw? I dont think its possible because the oscilators and filters have a totally different tone.

DS