Namm 2013

[TweakHead]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxXXf9U_CVk

found this one! there's also a description of its features here. since this guys were asked by DSI to design some patches for the new thing

[namnibor]

COOL! I think this is first time ANY synth has been able to create sounds of the likes of Microwave XT...those analog filters make ALL the difference!!! The orig. Korg Wavestation lacked real filter section and have read where many owners today use external analog filtering to try to achieve what DSI have here!!! This really fills one with terrible GAS!!!

[Berni]

I think I'm going to wait for access to put out a new model before I buy another hardware synth

[Timo]

Originally Posted by Berni

I think I'm going to wait for access to put out a new model before I buy another hardware synth

Never thought I'd hear that from you.

Has someone hijacked Berni's account?

[namnibor]

Originally Posted by Timo

Never thought I'd hear that from you.

Has someone hijacked Berni's account?

Perhaps he is literally quite beside himself today?

[MBTC]

Originally Posted by Timo

Never thought I'd hear that from you.

Has someone hijacked Berni's account?

I read that differently. Like he was saying he already has his synthesis needs so well covered that he can wait until the end of time, or a new Access synth release (in that order).

[namnibor]

Originally Posted by namnibor

COOL! I think this is first time ANY synth has been able to create sounds of the likes of Microwave XT...those analog filters make ALL the difference!!! The orig. Korg Wavestation lacked real filter section and have read where many owners today use external analog filtering to try to achieve what DSI have here!!! This really fills one with terrible GAS!!!

DSI are doing it right combining wavetable with analog filters on the NAMM Prophet 12. Waldorf *only* placed real analog filters on their Microwave 1 and although the Microwave II/XT/XTk can make sounds only until NOW have ever hear ANY synth make, the Prophet 12, those analog filters make a night and day difference and that can be heard in A/B comparisons between Microwave 1&2 AND on DSI Evolver series where a real analog VCF LPF is on each R/L of stereo path and then of course Evolver has a digital HPF further down path on both sides as well.
That YouTube demo of sound design examples made for Prophet 12 demonstrate to ears how much an analog high pass filter ALSO makes a HUGE difference. THIS synth is appealing to other "Waldorfians" than myself and this DSI Synth is more of the evolution many would have liked to have seen come forth from Waldorf (the Blofeld is a VERY powerful and capable synth with many cool filter algo's--no complaints here).
I could see adding the prophet 12 a little later on down time's road and then I would be personally forced to decide which to hold onto, the virus KB or the KC for shear space...maybe!

[TweakHead]

I'd keep the Virus C for the analogue filters alone... would never part from those!

[namnibor]

Thanks! I actually in all honesty would keep BOTH of them because the keybed on both is phenomenally expressive and I am not into the debate of which version of Virus sounds better, etc., but whether the AD/DAC's, the Virus B has more BALLZ in the low-end, and the arp can be made to do some really cool things when you set the envelopes to where it is a motion-filled-drone, et al!! AS aformentioned, have elot on my plate to digest and learn, which is a great thing because am very much into aspiring to learn and apply those in the real world. That's what's SO great about well-written manuals such as the Virus and most of Waldorf, and DSI MonoEvolverkeyboard manuals--they take you through exercises and through repetition of these and mastering, then move onto another block. DSI Desktop did not have such as great manual but that Expositional Thesis Anu Kirk wrote definitely applies to all Evolvers and can only imagine the Prophet 12 having a well-written manualk for as deep and complicated it's matrix is. Thanks again for sharing that YT video on some of the sound designer's work and I BET Steffan Trippler (DocT) had his hand in some of the presets as well as he did ALOT with the Evolver's second set which was in OSv3 for the MEK and the Desktop Evolver.

[TweakHead]

Yeah, but nowadays Logic is like my second skin, I can work much faster with it, then on Cubase (which I've been using a lot, on a laptop, since I'm in between houses right now), where I always feel a strange handicap. I also think Apple's focus has been on their gadgets for far to long, the Mac Pro is a joke, in terms of features, with totally outdated processors on them - and they sell them for such a huge amount of money. And the latest OS updates brought some issues with them, some older plug-ins are not compatible any more - even though there's been a fair number of updates by major brands and all. But all that so you have better facebook integration and a menu that looks like an IPAD? Still using snow leopard here, not thinking twice about it...

And yeah, Final Cut was a joke. Plain and simple. If they do the same with Logic, I think I'm going to get myself a Hackintosh and use this version on it, while learning Cubase at the same time and say goodbye Apple for good. They're largely over priced, and I haven't been excited about them for far to long. It's all a big bull salad, if you ask me.