Virus C's OS update idea.

[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by DIGITAL SCREAMS

Ti specs dont really look that spectacular. The new osc's are pretty fundemental in my opinion.

DS

Are you nuts DS? The TI specs are bloody great! The OSCs are a small part when looking at the whole. I think anyone using their Cs to the limit would agree with me here.

For one, Virus C owners should already be happy with what they've got (Now, I appreciate this is a little hypocritical...as I did have a few issues with the KC myself lol).

I'm very happy with the C (don't get me wrong), but when buying Access products, people do expect something with the updates. It's one of the reasons people do infact buy the Virus.

I don't think people are demanding an update angrily on this thread at all. People are just making sugestions.

Thirdly, people who splash out ?1500 are going to want a synth that is the dogs bollox......why deny new customers that privilage? They may as well buy-up all those 'cheap' Virus C's on Ebay!

Oh, so this is where it's coming from DS. It's a "my dad is tougher than your dad" issue. You want that synth status hey? Hehehe.

Originally Posted by Ten

Give em something to keep them happy and shut them up for a bit i say

Hehehe. I agree! Having the new OSCs over the Vocoda would shut me up good 'n' propa.

Originally Posted by Mcoyote

Well yeah, but, there's like two of them (C owners) left, right (me being one of them)? All the rest are on eBay.

Strangely enough though, once they get on Ebay they usually go onto new owners and not simply just disapear! 8O Amazing I know. Hehehe.

Originally Posted by Juho

Nah. Access people read the forum quite frequently so no need to make this sticky.

Yep agree.

Originally Posted by Blay

yeah youre right - dont worry about it - who gives a shit about those shitty c's anyway - old news really

Hey, I do.

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Am I nuts?..........I think I probably am lol

But just going back to the osc issue. This is were we differ in opinion greatly. I view the new oscilator types as fundementally important for the new product. The new osc types directly affect the machines synthesis capabilities.....the total intergration bit is peripheral as far as im concerned (Its great to have it.....but lets face it....we didnt have this back in the 70's or 80's and music was still made using synths). Dont get me wrong....its a very nice addition....but its very unlikely I'll ever use it because I dont work in that way.

Anyways....I always evaluate a new synth in terms of new sound designing possibilities......not flashy features. If the Virus C gets the osc upgrade....ill just buy the C again and save my money for better another analog. Or perhaps I'll just bypass the TI altogether and get an analog poly. Before I part with my money for the TI....I need to hear some MP3's, and I need to find out whether Access have any intentions of updating the C version along the lines some of you have already suggested.

Ok, my rant is over (Ive had a shit day)

DS

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Oh, so this is where it's coming from DS. It's a "my dad is tougher than your dad" issue. You want that synth status hey? Hehehe.

Theres probably an element of truth in that..... im still at that slightly impressionable age of 25. Owning old classic analog synths sends you on a slight ego trip. Its good that expensive modern gear gives the same kinda buzz. The day it stops making you feel good will be a sad one

DS

[Wandering Kid]

the total intergration bit is peripheral as far as im concerned (Its great to have it.....but lets face it....we didnt have this back in the 70's or 80's and music was still made using synths).

you are right, but the convenience of this integration i feel is so fundamentally important to writing a good song. the best songs i write are the ones where im in the zone - where i just bosh it up in an hour and capitalise on this momentum. the more natural it feels, the quicker you can get an idea into a track and thats priceless as far as im concerned. too often i let a an idea fade or i start well but lose momentum, get hung up on something that takes too long for me to get it the way i sound it. all the time and frustration you save here can be plowed into improving some other aspect of your work. sure lab4 made do without this feature. but dance music has changed and evolved alot since they put out evilution and its only been 2 years! i wouldnt pass up any feature if it makes writing music just that little bit less frustrating.

way back when DJs beatmatched songs on turntables using their ears and the pitch control. so when cd decks came out alot of people dismissed some of the features that came with them. automatic key matching, midi syncing etc.

those features dont just save the effort of having to beatmatch a song - they allow the DJ to focus on something else. a DJ is an entertainer - thats why i see some psy DJs now moving into beatmixing video in with their songs - all the time they save on stage with key locking can be better spent elsewhere, doing something else. priceless feature.

[blay]

yeah i modded my sl1200s with beat sync
people generally prefer to watch me playing with my nipples than actually mixing
a good dj incorporates many elements while keeping things in time

[DIGITAL SCREAMS]

Originally Posted by Wandering Kid

you are right, but the convenience of this integration i feel is so fundamentally important to writing a good song. the best songs i write are the ones where im in the zone - where i just bosh it up in an hour and capitalise on this momentum. the more natural it feels, the quicker you can get an idea into a track and thats priceless as far as im concerned. too often i let a an idea fade or i start well but lose momentum, get hung up on something that takes too long for me to get it the way i sound it. all the time and frustration you save here can be plowed into improving some other aspect of your work. sure lab4 made do without this feature. but dance music has changed and evolved alot since they put out evilution and its only been 2 years! i wouldnt pass up any feature if it makes writing music just that little bit less frustrating.

way back when DJs beatmatched songs on turntables using their ears and the pitch control. so when cd decks came out alot of people dismissed some of the features that came with them. automatic key matching, midi syncing etc.

those features dont just save the effort of having to beatmatch a song - they allow the DJ to focus on something else. a DJ is an entertainer - thats why i see some psy DJs now moving into beatmixing video in with their songs - all the time they save on stage with key locking can be better spent elsewhere, doing something else. priceless feature.

Well when you put it that way, I see your point!

DS

[Hollowcell]

Honestly, I wouldn't be using the plug-in VST intergration at first I don't think, but it's the sheer power of the TI which makes me envy the people that have them on order (even if they do look girly - hehe). It's a beast and that's got nothing to do with the OSC types.

Anyway, just to keep this thread on track. Please Access, new OSCs for the C instead of the Vocoda.

[Hollowcell]

*Bump*

Chant the following (in a religious monk kind of way) to visualize it as reality;

New OSCs for the C series instead of the Vocoda.
New OSCs for the C series instead of the Vocoda.

[tranzash]

HC, which one you looking for hypersaw or Wavetables?

[blay]

Originally Posted by Hollowcell

*Bump*

he didnt want to make this thread sticky but we have to put up with HC's jibberish messages anyway while he attempts to keep this thread current

im pro-vocoda myself