question about MULTI SAVE MODE on KC

[Onkel Dunkel]

Originally Posted by pressure

well I just started a hip hop track, found a sound, tweaked it, saved the multi, but then when I changed from one to the other, I noticed the sound was there, but the sound was not tweaked!

As i said earlier; you have to save the SINGLE program if you tweak a sound. Multi´s doesn´t contain sound information...

Maybe its just me, but the supernova did not suffer from this, all I needed to do was save the "multi" and tweaked sounds were saved.

This is not the way the Virus works...

when you say the virus TI doesnt "suffer" from these things, is it the same way?

No, i meant that the TI doesn´t suffer from only having one global delay/reverb. The TI has one delay/reverb pr. part...

I love the sounds of the virus, but its user interface is confusing. I dont know how to save a single sound, if I am in multi mode. Single sounds saving is suppose to be for the single sound mode! Or at least thats how I learned. Keep in mind this is my second hardware synth.

There is single mode, multi mode and multisingle mode. If you press store in single mode you save the single, if you press store in multimode you save the multi and if you press store in multisingle mode you save the single on the part you have selected. When working with a sequenser i always use multisingle mode and only go to multi mode to save the multi. It´s very simple actually. Here´s a step by step to how i would create a multi with 2 tweaked patches:

- press [multi]
- select empty multi
- hit [store] and name multi
- press [multi] and [single] together to go to multisingle mode
- select part 1 with [part] button
- select patch for part 1
- tweak away
- hit [store] to save tweaked single
- select part 2 with [part] button
- select patch for part 2
- tweak away
- hit [store] to save tweaked single
- press [multi]
- hit [store] to save multi

Voila!!!

the multi mode is suppose to save the tweaked sounds.

Not on the Virus...

How much can I get for a KC virus 61 note keyboard? I cant find them on ebay, so I dont know what to ask for, or ask to much.

No idea...

[pressure]

Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel

As i said earlier; you have to save the SINGLE program if you tweak a sound. Multi«s doesn«t contain sound information...



This is not the way the Virus works...



No, i meant that the TI doesn«t suffer from only having one global delay/reverb. The TI has one delay/reverb pr. part...



There is single mode, multi mode and multisingle mode. If you press store in single mode you save the single, if you press store in multimode you save the multi and if you press store in multisingle mode you save the single on the part you have selected. When working with a sequenser i always use multisingle mode and only go to multi mode to save the multi. It«s very simple actually. Here«s a step by step to how i would create a multi with 2 tweaked patches:

- press [multi]
- select empty multi
- hit [store] and name multi
- press [multi] and [single] together to go to multisingle mode
- select part 1 with [part] button
- select patch for part 1
- tweak away
- hit [store] to save tweaked single
- select part 2 with [part] button
- select patch for part 2
- tweak away
- hit [store] to save tweaked single
- press [multi]
- hit [store] to save multi

Voila!!!



Not on the Virus...



No idea...

ok, thats more of something that I can understand.

I was wondering, once I do save these sounds, say I imported another soundset of patches into the KC virus, will the KC virus, granted that a user saves the multi correct, will it remember the sound on the KC if I import new patches?

[Onkel Dunkel]

Originally Posted by pressure

I was wondering, once I do save these sounds, say I imported another soundset of patches into the KC virus, will the KC virus, granted that a user saves the multi correct, will it remember the sound on the KC if I import new patches?

I´m not sure i understand your question correctly. Do you mean if you are using for example patch A123 as part 1 in a multi, save the multi, forget about it and load a new sound to A123, will the multi still sound the same? Answer: No!!! You changed the sound and thereby the contents of the multi...

[pressure]

Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel

IÇm not sure i understand your question correctly. Do you mean if you are using for example patch A123 as part 1 in a multi, save the multi, forget about it and load a new sound to A123, will the multi still sound the same? Answer: No!!! You changed the sound and thereby the contents of the multi...

ok, well I dont understand why, if I am using a sound from the C bank, and I do the save function, the virus tells me to "use A / B bank to store"

I dont get it, how come I can not save to the cd bank? Will I not be able to use these sounds and save them???

[ledge]

from the manual...

The VIRUS provides access to up to 1024 SINGLE
sounds. Next to the 256 RAM sounds
(Bank A and Bank B), you have six banks available
with a total of 768 factory sounds. These
banks, C-H, are stored in the FLASH ROM and
can not be overwritten via STORE. The upper
four Banks E-H are not loaded by the Factory;
instead they have to be loaded by the user. By
that procedure, the demosong will be overwritten.

You can however copy banks a and b over to c - h using the SYSTEM>STORE TO FLASH function. This copies the entire bank over however (so A0 to a127, not a single patch)

What this means is that if there is a patch in banks C to H that you want to tweak and save you need to save it in bank A or B, overwriting an existing patch.

So at any one time you only have 256 patches that can be tweaked and saved, the other 768 patches are more permanent.

[Joerg Koehler]

SuperVirus Editor for Virus has 2048 edit memories for multi parts.
That means you can easy play arround with different multis and multi parts
without saving anything to the hardware as long the editor is running.
You can surely save files to disk if you need it later.
Just edit the parts as you like or exhange sounds per drag&drop...
Only if you need the final multi saved on hardware on stage or where ever,
you need to store but it's also a simple thing.

Joerg
www.solar3d-software.com

[pressure]

Originally Posted by Joerg Koehler

SuperVirus Editor for Virus has 2048 edit memories for multi parts.
That means you can easy play arround with different multis and multi parts
without saving anything to the hardware as long the editor is running.
You can surely save files to disk if you need it later.
Just edit the parts as you like or exhange sounds per drag&drop...
Only if you need the final multi saved on hardware on stage or where ever,
you need to store but it's also a simple thing.

Joerg
www.solar3d-software.com

super virus editor for my KC virus? This is interesting, where can I get it for my macintosh?

[Joerg Koehler]

Originally Posted by pressure

super virus editor for my KC virus? This is interesting, where can I get it for my macintosh?

Sorry, only for windows....

Joerg