Jumpy Knobs, Access cant seem to solve this one

[picato]

Originally Posted by mickrodot

I think its a software issue like Access says.

Of course it's a software problem, or a problem to interpret the changes in the signal from the knob. But in my case I don't experience the problem when I'm using both the midi in and out on my M-audio 4X4. I've just tried to pull the midi cable from the virus midi out, and the problem is there straight on!
Also very interesting is that not all midi interfaces/setups seemes to solve the problem. I've also just tried to hook my virus up with the midi in and out on a basic soundblaster live on another coumputer, and this doesn't solve the problem!

[jake_syd]

Im thinking that the OS 2.2 has really improved the function of my VIRUS RACK!!! Maybe its just that I can finnaly see the freakn' LCD screen.... Unfortuantely they have discontinued the RACK so I bet there will be no new OS>....

Im not sure if the knob issue is at play as I rewired my entire setup so I could use a Knob on my CS1x to record filter sweeps for the VIRUS.

I had a high quality MIDIMAN 2x2 and this isn't the issue!!! The only thing I know is that if your using the cutoff knob during a performance to dynamically control the synth it will Jump...!!!!!

[Tomer=Trance]

i have seen no change with the latest os
its 100 % a software problem and access even said that
i cant belive they will leave us users in the dark and wont come up with a solution to this problem

[ben crosland]

Come on guys - you know access will sort it out. All the other discontinued viruses have continued to receive OS updates, so why should the racks be any different?

FWIW - I don't think the Rack Classic and XL were ever conceived as performance instruments. That's not to say the encoder response shouldn't be made smoother, but I think that's why there has been relatively little fuss made about it by rack users. I expect nearly all of them are used exclusively in the studio environment, and most of those edited by remote.

From what I've heard, the encoders on the Waldorf Q series weren't that great for live tweaking either. Basically, if you want to do live sweeps etc, knobs are a better bet than rotary encoders IMO.

[Tomer=Trance]

i dont want to do live sweep i just want to program the bladdy thing manualy hehe
too much to ask? takes me a minute to "land" on the right number i want

[jonp7]

Originally Posted by Tomer=Trance

i also have a virus rack clasic and have the exact same problem
recording automation is hell takes me 5 minutes to get it right and then i give up and use velocity to controll the filters
hope they'l fix it in the next os

also filter 1 and 2 are cousing the most trouble

This describes my problem exactly too!
Virus Rack Classic.
Jumping to 127 or 0 depending which way the knob is being turned.
Noticed mainly on filt 1&2 cutoff knobs.
No significant improvement with updates (although possibly slightly better than when I first got it with original OS but maybe i'm just used to it now!).

[Tomer=Trance]

i dont see why this happends only in virus rack clasic and not in the xl or desktops

[ben crosland]

It *does* happen with the xl. It doesn't happen with the desktops because they don't use continuous rotary encoders.

[jake_syd]

Originally Posted by ben crosland

FWIW - I don't think the Rack Classic and XL were ever conceived as performance instruments. That's not to say the encoder response shouldn't be made smoother, but I think that's why there has been relatively little fuss made about it by rack users. I expect nearly all of them are used exclusively in the studio environment, and most of those edited by remote.

I realise this now... after years saving up for this baby as a Newbie.... then years thinking it was just me.... Awe well... what can you do!!!!

But, I like the Idea of Rotary Encoders. That way when the new patch loads I don't have to reset the knobs..... Ah what if I get a controller with ROTARY ENCODERs ..... AAAAAhhhhhhh

At least it still sounds sweet... Thank the Lord for Sound Diver...!!!!

[Tomer=Trance]

i think ben is talking about the software when he says encoders
the desktop versions after the virus A also have 360 degres knobs dont they? i dont see why they work just fine