Looking for good techno patches

[alind]

Hi,

I am looking for soundset from any of the following artists

Robert Henke, Monolake, Senking, Vladislav Delay, Loscil, Deepchord, Alva Noto, SND, Pole, Machinefabriek, Biosphere, Pan Sonic, Gas, Plastikman

Does anybody knows ?? all I can find is EDM/Trance which is not the style I am looking for at all

Please help anyone!

Thanks in advance!

Astrid

[TweakHead]

Chances are those 'soundsets' were never made comercially available?

Every time someone seems desperate to get sounds for some instrument, my answer is the same: you're better off learning the instrument and making the sounds you want/need to use. This is the fastest and - I dare say it - the only route.

So give it a go and meanwhile ask more specific questions on the "sound design" part of this forum with some examples so people can guide you in trying to get near to the sounds you which to achieve. To large a question as is.

Cheers

[Berni]

I agree with tweak, they don't exist. The trend nowadays is for artists to put up sample/patch packs up for sale on Beatport, Loopmasters etc. Even then the virus doesn't usually get a look in. The patches are mostly for Massive or Sylenth. There are still 'sound designers' making patches for the virus but most of them are just re-hashes of older stuff or shit you could make yourself easily if you learn the synth.
Having said that there are ton's of freebie soundbanks available from access's web site which could be used in any techno track...hey it's not exactly the highest musical art form ; )
BTW EDM stands for electronic dance music...thats what techno is, music made with electronic instruments that you dance too, or mong out too if you have taken too much gear

[MBTC]

I think I've got a general feel for the sound and vibe you want, but I can't say I've really seen sample packs for any synth that really address that need. That's because it's a really niche type sound where the sound itself becomes the track almost. The sound is not so much a patch in the synth as much as the sound as a component of the final production (by that I mean how the sound is routed will matter as much or more than the sound itself).

Are you tracking with me on that (no pun intended)? I just mean that you will find something like this maybe in Omnisphere packs where the entire sound is set up for you to hit a key, hear a sequence, and then hear the sequence in a different key but you won't feel like you wrote anything doing that.

One of the reasons Detroit Techno became legendary is that it involved taking analog synths an just getting flat-out creative with them, ignoring everything else that was going on and letting things evolve into a texture, or a dance groove, or whatever dudes felt like at the time. What made it techno was the fact that they were taking existing technology and moving it to the next level by simply doing something different, even if it meant routing one signal elsewhere to get some effect or vibe.

Perhaps the biggest peril with that is that (from the perspective of finding sound packs) is that if you do come up with some creative texture sound, then put it in a box for someone else to use, it is no longer unique or cool. That may be one reason you don't see a lot of sound packs for the Virus that address true Techno as opposed to dance music (most techno by the purist term is of course not dance music, though techno means a lot of things to a lot of people these days I guess).

If you really want to get down to how the masters did it back in the days, you have to go pure analog, but I promise you've got a lot of work ahead compared to what most of us are used to these days. I get some great sounds out of my Leipzig-S but putting it into a repeatable form then making a track out of it can be a shitload of work. The days of digital, virtual analog and soft synths have simplified a lot of things but they might have made the particular sound you're looking for more elusive in some ways. At that point you're dealing more with the intricacies of the signal path than just the patch properties. It can be beautiful when it comes together well, it's just that theirs never a big enough audience to fully appreciate it and that's why sound designers don't go after it.

[TweakHead]

A big part of some techno music is how the sounds evolve into other sounds, and that takes some tweaking know-how that can only come from programming the sounds yourself...

like said above, in a context where those are the big cards to play - like, you could say that dubstep is all about the bass sounds - people will hold on to their labor, since that's what sets them apart from the competition.

the actual processing of the sounds is also a big factor of course. many people today misuse the effects, in that they use them simply as some layer to put on top of things. while sends and returns, actually arranging the effects and thinking about them like you do with the synthesizers and just about anything else is much more musical and makes room for better results. even how you set up the routings in a mixer can be either extremely clever or stupid and much of how the music sounds depends on such decisions. gets to a point where producing and arranging and mixing, sound design and mixing even are so interconnected as to feel the same. And that's techno, it's actually getting deep with the machines, to their soul. Best answer (again) is to tweak your brain out of your head! Fasten your sit belt and have a nice flight!