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Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel
The one with Isreal not being a real country was a joke (therefore the:  ). |
My sense of humour's licence has expired, but i will download the latest updates soon.
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Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel
Of course it?s a country now but it hasn?t any historically reason to be where it is except that some extremist jews belive that god gave the land to the jews and therefore they have the rights to it witch is far out IMO.
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Only 3 of the biggest religions claims that Israel was there more than 2006 years ago, but religions aren't historical facts.
About the jewish extremists who's settlements has been removed by Ariel Sharon's order last year, are a small group of
religious fanatics who used to live the "settler" way of life for generations. This particular group of people is quite small
(in terms of active members) and everything they ever do is living in those ridiculous tents under the worst conditions ever.
That's their choise, their activity considered as illegal by the israeli laws, and this is the reason all those settlements are
getting deconstructed by special IDF units and millitary police forces, usually in a matter of 48 hours, as it's done lately.
Btw, after a suicide bomber goes off, it'a also 48 hours before his house goes bulldozed down to the ground by default
settings, same 48hour rule applies. Anyway, Palestinian families are getting enuff money to buy 3 houses from each skull of shahid.
Not from Israel though. But still, how ironic.
About democracy, i don't like it, i don't believe in it, and i think it's a dangerous thing to any civilized society. Democracy must have at least some reasonable limits, the problem is that any possible limits are obviously limiting democracy, and by doing this they're interrupt the general ideas of democracy (the freedom of speech for example). What's the problem with this you may ask? Why anyone would dictate any fuckin' limits? The problem is, as we can see, that overusing democracy automatically turns democracy into a perfect anarchy. There's a system error integrated into the core of democracy, but this is the way this core was engeneered in the first place. Democratically speaking, there should be no limits to the freedom of speech, but Practically speaking - there must be at least some reasonable limits to the anarchy of overused democracy. Demagogy is the best known instrument to manipulate and customize democracy for your personal needs to suit your own agendas. But i'm not saying that Communism or Socialism are any better or worse than Democracy or than each other, i believe that it's all about the perfect balance between 3 of them, that's what people really need. Too bad that the majority of people would never understand this.
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Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel
I know that certain countries and extremist groups would like to have Israel removed from the world map. I don?t agree with this but i do think it was a big mistake that the state of Israel was founded. Now it?s there and it?s to late to do anything about it...
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I think that the whole idea of Zionism has been failed big time, basicly for similar reasons as Democracy. It wasn't engineered propertly to even start with it in a first place. On another note, without Zionism i wouldn't post this reply right now, i just want you to know it. It's a long story from 15 years ago, but i wouldn't get deeper into it right now.
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Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel
I know that there?s a heck lot religion in it now but what i meant was that the main cause of the conflict is non religeous and this has to be solved one way or another.
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Three of the most famous religions are deeply involved in this conflict, and at least two of them are very active. Of course there's lots of other reasons like political and/or financial interests of different countries to support different sides of this conflict, world's media financial interests to make their quick $ from cheap propaganda(every war in the history involves propaganda) and lots and lots of smaller but not less important reasons.
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Originally Posted by Onkel Dunkel
About using civilians as human shields. Is isrealy lives more important than libanese? Sound like it since you think it is ok to bomb civilians as long as it?s because Hizbullah uses them as shields.
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In a perfect world (well, almost perfect) Israeli lifes are more important to Israel and Lebaneese lifes are more important to Lebanon, but the world isn't perfect, and the use of human shields is a hard reality that Israel has the "pleasure" to deal with. The paradox is, that Hezbollah should not become totally untouchable by using live-shields under any circumstances (as this thing can't be allowed for obvious reasons - those who's been attacked by Hezbollah can't respond in any way except surrendering), so it means that any practical responce will make you a murderer of innocent woman and children. This is the situation, and there's no other way, there may be lots of theoretical ways but no practical ones. Actually there's couple of psychological/religious solutions to put an end to this whole generation of brainwashed suicide bombers without use of any weapons at all, but no government in the world would never ever allow anything like this to be used.
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I think it?s equally wrong no matter what side of the border the civilians come from. If it was up to me they could send all the extremists on both sides to another planet where they could fight until no one was left. Then all the peace loving people left could live happily everafter  |
They will fight where they always used to fight, they've born to fight and they're ready to die as fallen fighters in a holy war of religions, ideologies and civilizations...
Btw, on another forum there's a better emoticon to show sarcasm, this one:
