[Hollowcell]

Originally Posted by Khazul

Thats sounds good - Ive not tried doing much with sampling 'regular' synth sounds with the v-synth - usually wierd shit then finding odd textures within, or an accoustic/electric instrument and doing the same.

Not tried hammer drills though - that was good

As long as you sample synths completely dry, you can do not only quite good emulations, but you can play with the sounds to things they could never do on the original machines.

The reason this subject came up is because of the number of posts Ive seen here and in other forums about can synth xxx do the JP supersaw thing...

So thought - right - time to find someone with a JP and do so controlled simple demos that really compare the JP with other known supersaw type synths, with no fx, pure osc sounds and maybe the filters.

The latest forum Ive seen this in is the Korg Radias forum, and of course saw it first in the v-synth forums and of course here and other virus forums.

I dont actually want to try and emulate a JP - I quite like my vs-super/hyper and unison saw (radias) the way they are

Yeah I've read some of these too actually. Probably many people pissed off for paying too much for them.

As for v-synth filters - yes - have to agree they are very sterile sounding in mid range where the character of a filter generally shines most, complately lacking in any decent snarl or bite with reso - more functional than musical I guess - actually compared to the virus most digital filters are functional rather than musical . They do seem quite good at extracting deep punchy bass sounds though.

Yup, but for something like the V-Synth I for one am glad they are functional. Take the first sound in that second V-Synth demo I did, I sampled the Nord screaming (and I mean screaming!), if I let the V-Synths filters open up fully (which I didn't for that demo by the way), it's sort of the same effect as having snarling filters, but this way you still get the characture of the original waveform.

If the V-Synths filters had too much characture of their own it would take away some of the tonal posibilities.

I tend to use the TB303 model the most on the v-synth and tame it a bit so it doesnt sound as rough or couple a TVF with a comb.

I used the TB303 filter on a sound for the first time the other day actually. I find it not to work too well on most things - has a kind of dulling effect. Needs tweaking.

I usually use the Dual TVF, and then a standard TVF running a high or low pass depending on what the Duel filter is doing. Once I have played with settings I use these setting as a base for other Cosm setups, by just copying the Cosm sections from those patches to what ever I'm working on - all synths should have this sort of function by the way.

I mentioned the CS10 "sp saw" earlier. The third sound in my V-Synth demo one was actualy my CS10 layered and detuned, but all the filter work there was the V-Synth - if you heard the original waveform you'd be so surprised how harsh it is. This is the way to work with the V-Synth in my opinon, sample harsh (almost painfull waves) then use the V-Synths filters to calm them down.

But this is turning out to be more a tips for the V-Synth thread now.

We wanna hear those 80xx samples.