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Anyway, I think you've caused yourself enough embarassment by now, so it's good that you decided to abandon this thread.
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Your right! I'm sorry I embarassed you.......the world need's coffee servers too............all jokes aside thou .......I think you made a lot of very interesting points to my original thread.......and I enjoyed the argument..........now I have been trying to get at least half as many responses for my question on the NIN sound from 'Terrible lie' it is in the sound design section .....I am going to have to post the mp3 file for the question......hopefully some of you guy's with more experiance than I have with the Virus can answer it for me.......SEEYA!!!!!