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Originally Posted by Juho L

At least in Finland the state collects and takes care of taxing, not the music industry. ?hih. When you pay salaries to musicians, mixermen, etc, you're an employer, which means you'll have to be an entrepeneur which leads into a taxation hell and to seventh level of Dante's recepit inferno. Running a small business is not an easy task. Loads of work with the financial things.

Oh well, then you have a manager for your band and if you are big enough an accountant and so on. Maybe a few bands get together to share these people who do the boring stuff, but they should be answering to the bands as they are the reason these people have jobs. The major labels have got this all messed up so that the bands who should have the power and a say in how they do things have no power and get fucked over as much as the label possibly can.

Originally Posted by Juho L

Wouldn't it be nice if you would get more pay for an average factory work so you wouldn't have to work extra shifts to get some money left after living costs. Life is like a flower bed: There is no flowers without manure and dirt. Totally equal business and market is total utopia. It's just a thing one has to accept. As long as humans are running the system there will be greedy bastards. But remember kids that the big music industry bullies are not the only one's cooping more than they need. for example think of Paul McCartney - Why none of you whine why he haven't spend his millions to support new music and musicians even he can burn 100 pounds in bright flame each minute and he would still have money left when he dies? Greed folks, greed. If the big bullies don't take the extra then someone else does. I'm not saying that the modern music industry is great, but don't bite the hand that feeds your fellows.

So you think that we should just give up and never try to make anything better? And I'd bite that major label hand given the chance. There is no way I'd sign a major label contract even if I was talented enough to get offered a contract.

Originally Posted by Juho L

A bad contract is a bad contract.

But that is all the major labels offer. So fuck them, I'm not supporting a business that behaves like that.

Originally Posted by Juho L

Everyone takes a far bigger slice if they can. If you take a hundred people in a big hall with a huge box in the middle filled with 20 euro notes and put up a sign declaring "One note per person", what do you think does everyone walk out with one note in their hand? Of course they do, except they have their pockets and shirts filled with notes.

Not me, but I guess if everyone does it we should just give up and go with the flow eh?

Originally Posted by Juho L

But not buying it because of the label is really just doing damage to the artists. Buy the record, damn it! I bet my arm that you wear clothes that has one promille of the sales income spent to the salaries of the people actually making them and I also bet that the profits of almost everything you have bought is unfairly shared. Still you don't seem to make a number of it. We live in a rotten globalised world in which silly itty-bitty fraction of people get all the profits excluding the itty-bitty fraction that goes to the other people. Unfair world.

I do try to avoid bastard companies of all sorts, major record labels just make it easy as their product is rarely something I want

Originally Posted by Juho L

What is this? A peace pipe of some sort! I fart in your peace pipe's general direction!

Okay it's on then. Let's fight