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Originally Posted by Juho L

So you're trying to say that for an example mixermen, masterers, producers, session musicians, recording engineers, cover graphics artists, additional composers and writers don't deserve any pay?

They should be paid by the artist, who should be paid by whoever buys the music.

Originally Posted by Juho L

Average musician sells quite different numbers than The Beatles.

And they should therefore get quite different money than The Beatles.

Originally Posted by Juho L

I think you really don't have any idea who are these "middle men". When real musicians make a record there is more invovled than a teenager with a bad acne and Reason 2.5, like on trance scene. Hoho. But really, think who are getting paid for the record sales. The musician/artist itself gets majority of the pay by live shows - The rest of the musicians and other people invovled in making the record get paid only by the sales.

I think gimpoid is talking more about the major labels where the middle men are not the producers/engineers/etc. but coporate suits who do fuck all. Middle men are by definition between the people involved in creating the music, i.e. the artists and engineers/producers, and the people buying the music.

The major label music industry rips everyone off, both artists and consumers.

I think that file sharing is shitty when people don't buy any music, but I download a lot of music. Then again I have over my life spent a stupid amount on music, with hundreds of cds and a wardrobe filled with vinyl. If I wasn't able to download this music there are heaps of albums I would never have heard of and never bought.

Quite frankly given the poor quality of a lot of releases, I'm not prepared to buy music without listening to the full album first, if it grabs my interest I'll buy it.