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Old 19.12.2004, 03:51 PM
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Yes, I noticed. That's why I needed to correct a few things...
Yup. I assumed that it was 64-bit because it was released as a fanfare for the new G5 family.

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As you see, it's your personal opinion. Of course we will benefit by 64bit technology, but your 64bit processor will not boost it's performance by 50% or at least 10% when the 64bit OS arrives. Like I said, in real life the most noticable boost will be in the memory amount which the processor can use.
But if the performance boost is totally trivial then why there are so much effort put in 64-bit OS? It doesn't make any sense. The 64-bit systems can run 32-bit OS's with no problems (including the extented memory) so why to create a new OS that actually doesn't change anything at all? That's my point. If the increase is only one or to percents then why all the hassle? Whats the motive?

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There are many benchmarks already available comparing 32bit vs. 64bit. Search with google for example.
Yup. I've seen those. The differences aren't big yet due the software. Only about 10% performance difference.

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That's right. How can it be possible? It just is...
Many reasons. Less CPU hungry mixing and dithering algorithms for example. It's true that the older sequencers are very light compared to the new ones.

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I don't doubt that we would ever need 8GB ram for example. Of course that day will come and sampling needs lots of ram already. You just use as much ram as you need. It depends on how much you use sampling synths and samplers. Analog- and physical modeling synths and effects plugins don't need very much ram. Some delay and reverb plugins may need more but not that much it would be noticable if you have already at least 1gig of ram. Also the new direct disk streaming option in most soft samplers has helped with ram issues. For example I have sampled huge 24bit JP80x0 Strings (1 minute from every key). I couldn't use them without disk streaming on the moment. I have only 1.25GB of ram, but I'm going to expand that to 2GB. It's well enough for my use.
Yup. But as you have noticed the need for RAM increases unnoticeably. The samplings get bigger so the DFD eneds more RAM. There's not long before 2GB RAM is too small. Technology and software develops at frightening rate, one sohuld be always prepared for future. Do not get a system that fits your need, get a system that's over your needs.

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You don't seem to take this very seriously as you laugh after every sentence.
Nah. It was just silly to say "twice as fast" when talking about a computer that in theory has two computers in same.

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I just wanted to point out that PowerMac Dual G5 is not just a crap with it's 2 "lousy" processors against single processor pc computers as the carillon test showed. Nothing more. And it doesn't matter if I compare logic7 performance to logic5 or sx2, because the performance ratio is about the same with 3rd party plugins too.
Actually the sequencer affects the CPU time taken by the plugin because the sequencer does mixing & dithering. The differences in the algorithms and the engine in general cause differences in the overall performance. Like I said earlier the new sequencers are heavier due improved algorithms. For example it's quite a big difference between Cubase VST32 and SX3.
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