[Juho L]

Originally Posted by F5D

I'm trying to say that in this case Carillon have included a G5 system in the comparison too, because they know that it doesn't run cubase well (because the code is not very efficient) and they want to give customer an illusion that carillon machines are super fast compared to macs. See?

Ah. Yes.

If you didn't already know, a 64bit processor doesn't give any performance boost in calculation in real life. It only increases the memory amount you can use.

Well, of course the new technology allows improving the structure that the clock speed can be increased. But let's not forget that processing double int's, double floats and other 32-bit data structures is faster with 64-bit system due the improved structure (the accumulator on 64-bit processor is bigger)

And like at pc platform there's no 64bit windows available yet for music production, neither is there 64bit osx available for mac!

I thought OSX already had 64-bit system. The 64-bit Windows XP beta has been around for a while. It has some bugs in running some 32-bit programs, but with it SX3 could run in true 64-bit mode. The official release of Windows XP64 would be late winter/spring. I hope they get it done until then.

Moving to 64bit doesn't affect the performance that much, it has been tested and it's about 1% more power or not even that.

Hmm... This is not right. The increase is much more. No-one would start developing 64-bit software (not mention OS's) if the increase would be only 1%. The increase has to be more. Why else Apple and Microsoft would spend hundreds of millions in developing software that actually doesn't improve anything. I'll be gettin my computer around January so I'll make a test by installing basic Windows XP and the XP64 beta and run Cubase SL3 on both systems. I ban bet my arm that the same project on XP64 runs better.

The only performance boost will come from the extra memory which the processor can use and if the program even needs that much memory.

*cough* Sampling *cough* *cough* Animation *cough* *cough* Research *cough*. Few years back someone might have wondered for what the hell a computer needed 126 megas of memory. It was insane amout at that time. The need for memory and processing power increases all the time. When technology allows bigger memory capacity and processing power it's taken in use in no time. I bet that after two years average RAM amount is 2GB or more and HC users have the max.

Also the logic5 can run more of the same vst-plugins than the new SX2. Surprised?

Sick.

So if my mac now has twice the power compared to my pc, that's not fair or has to be a misunderstanding? I don't get it. Should I use cubase on mac too to get real results?

G??! Of course if you have an strong urge to use Logic then compare the old PC Logic with the new Mac Logic. And of course the Mac has twice the power because it's dual. Doh. Hoho.

I haven't said anything about testing only with Cubase. I meant that when doing concrete objective comparisations which are not dependent on the sequencer Mac should run Logic 7 and PC SX3 and do the comparisation with several different 3rd party plugins. That way both systems run the software that's up to date.

I don't want to sound mean, but you should study a little bit more of what you're talking about, altough you're a moderator. :)
And altough it says in my information bar, that I'm a "complete newbie", in real life I'm not.

Probably, but still there are some holes in the knowledge in both sides. Ie. that 1% increase can't be true.

Edit: I'll add that at the moment the differences between 32-bit and 64-bit systems are not very huge, but the situation will change when the 64-bit software are more common. So we are going to see a good performance boost achieved by software on all 64-bit systems in the next year.