I think you didn't quite get my point here. I'm trying to say that in this case Carillon have included a G5 system in the comparison too, because they know that it doesn't run cubase well (because the code is not very efficient) and they want to give customer an illusion that carillon machines are super fast compared to macs. See? Apple sure has done something similar with some other tests which can be found on their own site, but what really matters is how the system really performs with the software you want to use. Isn't that the most important thing here? Like I said, don't buy a mac if you want to use cubase because cubase runs better on pc. There are also many other programs which mac can run alot faster than any pc. It's only up to what program you want to use.
It's quite obvious that Steinberg has been doing much more work with the cubase/nuendo pc version than the mac version because cubase is the leading sequencer for pc platform and they want to keep it that way. However on mac the logic is the leading sequencer now. Apple is behind both logic (application) and mac osx (operating system) so it has a vantage over every other manufacturer because it knows exactly how the OS is coded and how to achieve the most efficient code for an application. Also what happened when apple bought emagic, they put all the emagic's optional plugins (worth over 1000 euro) together with logic platinum and named it "Logic Pro". Only a very big company can do this radical decision and that was amongst the other things a real sign that apple wanted logic to be n.1 sequencer on mac.
As I see this, I think Steinberg supports mac only because there are still some old cubase users who use mac. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they declared that Cubase will be discontinued on mac and continues only on pc (sure not what I want but it's possible). It was a real shock when apple/emagic told the same about logic & pc. I have read from many places that the new SX3 performs even worse than the sx2 on mac so maybe there's something that Steinberg could improve in their code. Compared to logic, the v.7 runs a little faster than v.6. People have reported that their projects run with less cpu than before.
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by Juho L
Err... So testing with Cubase is not good because it's not optimised to G5 and testing with Logic is good because it has an vintage version of it on PC which is not optimised to A64? Not logic in here. ?hih. There's no point in that comparisation because the older software performs naturally wrose than the updated Logic 7 which supports 64-bit system. As I said only way to do an objective conrete testing is by using 3rd party plugins within an updated sequencer (Logic7, SX3).
|
About the processor technology...
If you didn't already know, a 64bit processor doesn't give any performance boost in calculation in real life. It only increases the memory amount you can use. And like at pc platform there's no 64bit windows available yet for music production, neither is there 64bit osx available for mac! So both Windows XP and Mac OSX 10.3.7 still use 32bit code. And if the operating system cannot work @ 64bit, neither does any program which runs in that OS. Moving to 64bit doesn't affect the performance that much, it has been tested and it's about 1% more power or not even that. The only performance boost will come from the extra memory which the processor can use and if the program even needs that much memory. So logic5 isn't that "vintage" at all compared to logic7, because they both use 32bit code. I know many people who still use logic5 and they wouldn't like to hear it's "vintage".
And like I said, I was about to switch from cubase sx2 to logic 5 pc version. I liked the logic that much and it still performs very well with pc too. Usually an older program is also faster to run. Logic5 runs even a little better with a64 than with intel p4 altough it "hasn't been optimized" for a64. Also the logic5 can run more of the same vst-plugins than the new SX2. Surprised?
So my comparison WAS fair because I definitely wanted to use logic and could have continued using the Logic5 and have a performance of 72 platinum verbs which is already a very good result. However I wanted to get a new version of logic and the new plugins and tools to work with so I had to switch from pc to mac. So if my mac now has twice the power compared to my pc, that's not fair or has to be a misunderstanding? I don't get it. Should I use cubase on mac too to get real results? Come on!
I don't want to sound mean, but you should study a little bit more of what you're talking about, altough you're a moderator.
And altough it says in my information bar, that I'm a "complete newbie", in real life I'm not.
Quote:
|
Whenn I'll get my system up and running I'll do some benchmarks.
|
Ok, no problem...