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Originally Posted by marc
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Originally Posted by Hollowcell
All the latest talk about timing is really over hyped (now that you bring it up Blay).
Latency/timing only became an issue when the first softsynths hit the scene. However, there were people setting up huge daisy chains of equipment creating slopy timing, but appart from that, midi is no problem what so ever - specially if set up right.
As long as the sequncer is recording and playing back exactly what I've played going in, then that's all I need.
I can run 16 channels of midi, with over dubbed CC automation, going out to alot of different hardware while at the same time having it all synced to midi clock with no glitches at all! I'm happy enough.
The TI being too perfect? Wavetable, hypersaw, full multi-timbral functions including FX and 80 voices does sit pretty high in my books, but sample tight intergration is not that high on my list.  |
i disagree on that. the problem with MIDI is certainly not that timing is not perfect. the problem is that timing is not predictable. i give you an example. you want a bass to sit right on the kick. with midi, there is pretty much no chance to control which event the sequencer sends first. so you add a pad to your kick/bass arrangement and suddenly, the bass i s late. then you compensate with MIDI delay but once you play a more complex chord with the pad, you bass moves again. maybe because the channel the bass is on is being send after the channel the pad is played on, maybe because you synth does priotize things differently.
perfect timing is not about taking the life out of the music. it is about a note on event remaining on the same position, no matter what you change in the arrangement.
it sounds basic but did you ever think about the reasons artist have to go through all the trouble to sample their MIDI synths and use samples instead of the actuall MIDI triggers when they arrange?
i believe that human timing (as long as the players are good) is the perfect base for a good groove. thousands of artist have proven that. but as little as you want your drummer to be off after a break you want your synth bass to hit the kick only occationally.
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Interesting points there Marc. I think this definitely varies depending on the sequencer, midi interface and the use of software alongside hardware.
I honestly don't get any timing issues at all. I must say though, when I record bass, I usually run straight to audio, or route to the sampler, but I never did this for timming though. I would do this as the gear I use for bass doesn't usually have midi. I should say though, that maybe my example of 16 midi tracks was a little over-stated though. I do tend to move to audio or the sampler far before that.
You mentioned about triggering samples instead - well these samples usually would be triggered by midi wouldn't they. Of course they aren't as complex and notation, but still, it's midi.
EDIT; But hype it up though Marc. I'm sure it will help the sales of the new machine.
