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boborulz 10.02.2010 08:29 PM

Virus analogue outs
 
Hey all,

Who uses the Virus' analoge outputs over the usb ones? Whats the difference? Sound quality? I find you then don't have as much control with your sounds as you do in USB mode...thoughts, comments??

Cheers.

synthfiend 11.02.2010 05:20 AM

IMO the analogue outs sound richer
The D/A's on the Virus are pretty good I think

jamie8286 11.02.2010 11:52 AM

Yup i prefer using the analogue outs i also like using the midi over usb to play parts maybe as to me it seems a bit looser then on usb. I ususally just use usb to make patches etc.

cristianokeller 13.02.2010 05:51 AM

Didn't totally understand your question... But, the analog outs off course are better because they are the sound that comes direct from your Virus. And they are free of latency. But you cannot get the sounds inside your sequencer... The USB mode uses a A/D (Analog to Digital) conversion and this cause a loss of the quality. But like synthfiend the A/D's on the Virus are pretty good!

boborulz 13.02.2010 08:13 PM

yea, im going to have to trial both the outputs side by side to see if i can discern this "richness"...i guess i can just use the usbs for monitoring during the production process and when it comes time to make the final copy go analogue...also hasn't the sound gone through a D/A anyway to go out the analogue outs? Considering this is a VA synth....

cristianokeller 13.02.2010 09:17 PM

The Virus documentations advices are to use the analog outs as monitoring... Probably yes, they have internal D/A's , but only one right? If you use another it will be a 2 D/A's process... :)

///OSS 13.02.2010 11:13 PM

Analog outs are great D/As, the A/Ds on the Virus suck. the USB out is a no go, only good for MIDI. I take my analog out and use the VC as a remote to edit on the fly but still record thur my DAWs interface (828mkIII) where I can crank the trims and get a nice strong signal coming into the system. love it!

cristianokeller 14.02.2010 01:05 AM

OSS, why are you saying that the USB out is a no go? I think it's a nice way to go and to obtain pro results, specially if you don't have any more money to buy a expensive sound card with class A AD/DA's. Also the ins are ok to the job imo.
well.. I have a m-audio NRV-10 that sounds like a shit but in a near future I'm planing to get a Apogee Ensemble. I know it's better but the USB seems to be a great way to go...

boborulz 14.02.2010 10:08 PM

seems to be hard to find a consensus on this subject...

///OSS 14.02.2010 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cristianokeller (Post 295449)
OSS, why are you saying that the USB out is a no go? I think it's a nice way to go and to obtain pro results, specially if you don't have any more money to buy a expensive sound card with class A AD/DA's. Also the ins are ok to the job imo.
well.. I have a m-audio NRV-10 that sounds like a shit but in a near future I'm planing to get a Apogee Ensemble. I know it's better but the USB seems to be a great way to go...

It's a no go when you listen to your virus analog outs raw from the box and the sound is fantastic and then you record the same sound thru the USB and it has an apparent loss of tightness or "feel". That's why it's out, I want to capture it so it sounds as true to the source as i can. I see no other choice but to have another set of A/Ds to properly record this great machine. Use the USB for composing or synthesis but when you go record it try your best to get a professional set of A/Ds, They don't have to be a million dollars but the A/D on the TI is average. The D/As are STELLAR! but that doesn't solve the issue we're debating. Once you get that Apogee you will be much happier with the end result and the USB will be just an average way to go.


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