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index 16.11.2005 02:13 PM

What do you think of these 4 TI feature requests?
 
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:arrow: CC/Sysex automation with Vcontrol

The option to choose between CC/Sysex/ChannelPressure as means of automation in Vcontrol instead of Cubase read & write automation.
I am happy with the assignment of controllers the Virus already have, and have no wish of doing it all again when loading up a project.
So simply make an option to choose between the old style CC/Sysex/Channel Pressure automation or Cubase Read & write style.



:arrow: Sticky Shift Button
Make an global option for the Shift button so that
instead of pressing and holding it you will only
need to press it once to get into SHIFT mode and
press it once again to get back to normal.
This is very needed if your busy playing the keyboard with
your right hand and want to change, for example Filter Keyfollow.
If you dont got the hand of a giant you wont be able
to press & hold the shift button and reach the knob
at the same time.

It would however needed to be indicated by a little S
or something similar in the LCD when activated to avoid confusion.
What about inverting all the LCD screencolors when shift is activated? ;)


:arrow: Cool & informative details on the LCD
With such a nice detailed LCD screen, its a shame that only a simple
number is shown as you twist a knob. Instead, i would like to see
Visible Envelopes, Filter Curves, LFO waveforms that change
when tweaking the parameters. Some synthesizers that use
this is Alesis Ion, Alesis Andromeda.

Its not really something that you cant be without, but it sure looks
good and is much more fun to watch then a simple number!
It would also be easier for the newbies to grasp the concepts of
subtractive synhtesis - you see whats going on with the waveform
pulsewidth, or envelope and at the same time hear it. Cause & Effect.

If it could be done without eating up any noticable DSP usage i would really love it.


:arrow: Effective effects editing

Rearrange the effect parameters so that
5 different parameters will be
available at the same time.

I have made a picture that clearly explains
my example with the effect Chorus.
Download the attachment and have look for a better
explanation.

And this counts for phaser, delay & reverb also.
Make as many important effect parameters "knobbable" at the
same time, there is no point in showing parameters
that can already be reached with the dedicated
knobs Imho.

But before any of these ideas - i would of course like to see any stability bugs should be sorted out.

Please give me som feedback on my ideas

index 16.11.2005 02:27 PM

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Im uploading another file to explain what the second Chorus menu would look like after the rearrangment.

adam 16.11.2005 03:10 PM

I'm all for the stick shift, too. Be nice if you could adjust the length of time that it sticks in Config.

I'm going to piggy-back my request in here, too. Hope you don't mind, but I'd like to get it as much exposure as possible. I posted this to the mailing list, too:

Okay, after some experimenting, it seems to me that when a
VirusControl is up, neither the knobs on the TI nor their equivalent
functions in the Control output any MIDI control change messages.
That is (with Live), the MIDI in light goes up when I play notes on
the keyboard, but does not light up for knob movements.

I've set up a second MIDI track with it's input set to either the
Virus TI Synth, or the Virus TI MIDI, or the MIDI track that houses
the Virus Control. None of these produces any activity on their
meters, for, say, Filter Cutoff changes, done either in the Control
or on the synth.

What I want to do is (related to a prior post of mine): use my
BCR-2000 as a control surface for the VirusControl, and have the
BCR-2000 receive updates if changes to the same parameters are made
on either the synth or the VirusControl.

The reason I want this (you can skip this paragraph if you don't
care): I'd like to use the BCR-2000 as a control for the Virus, so
that I can see, and adjust, a few parameters (filter cutoff,
resonance, etc.) for multiple parts simultaneously, but have the
BCR's LEDs update accordingly if I adjust those parameters anywhere
else...since I'd obviously rather use the Virus or the VirusControl
when I'm working on a single part.

The problem: I can get the BCR to adjust the parameters I want, but
the BCR won't update if the changes are made elsewhere, since there's
no MIDI out messages for me to tap.

The solution:

1)I'm wrong that there's no MIDI out being sent. How do I get that
routed to the BCR-2000?

2)Change the VirusControl so that there are available MIDI out
messages. Live can tap the VirusControl track - from their manual:
"When routing MIDI in from another track, we are tapping the MIDI at
the latest possible stage, which is just before the instrument."
Except there doesn't seem to be any. You could even block them from
being sent out the USB...just put them in the track so that Live can
snag them for re-routing.

3)Or, conversely, when you look at the VirusControl in Live's
internal browser (meaning at the bottom, shift-tabbing from the clip
view), and click on the wrench, a list of assignable parameters is
opened. This list includes Filter Cutoff 1, Filter Resonance 1, Osc
Volume, and Soft Knobs 1-3 for all 16 parts, and then, at the end of
this lengthly list, 29 empty parameters marked "free". These
parameters are available for Live's Remote Mapping...which means the
BCR can be mapped to them, and they update the BCR! But...I want
other parameters available. This could be done two ways:

a)Alter the soft knobs so that they function the same as the other controls...then I could use the fact that they show up in point 3)
and map them to the controls I want. The problem being, as they now
function, they don't update the same way as, for example the Filter
Cutoff. Adjusting Filter Cutoff on the VirusControl or the Synth
updates the BCR, but adjusting Soft Knob 1 only updates the BCR-2000
through the VirusControl, not the Synth.

b)Is it possible to make those "free" parameters assignable? Then I would have 29 slots that I could use for whatever I liked.

b) is preferable to a) because it doesn't require that I tie up my soft knob assignments.

I know you guys probably have more pressing things to worry about
just yet, but maybe this would be incredibly easy to implement, and
you'd all love to stay up all night working on it for me. Wow, thanks!

Adam

adam 16.11.2005 03:12 PM

Oh my god. That baby photo is default?

index 16.11.2005 04:20 PM

It seems that we wont the same thing. You are right - no CC are being sent, as we are to us the Sequensers non-midi based automation instead.

And probably your controller is not usable in this way.

Im used to editing CC/controllers and simply like it more then Cubase Read & Write automation. And the other thing is that Cutoff is the only parameter that is already assigned as default, wich makes you have to assign a whole list of parameters before beginning - or doing it along the song when you suddenly want to automate a certain parameter. Its just extra wasted time for me.

So for people like us there should be an option to choose CC & midi based automation instead

dr. orange 16.11.2005 04:23 PM

Re: What do you think of these 4 TI feature requests?
 
Index, your feature requests are great!

stop considering features and changes unless you want access to consider employing you :-D really great ideas

nvisibl 16.11.2005 09:44 PM

Yep, sticky shift.

+ Colour LCD for next model.

adam 16.11.2005 10:01 PM

Oh, come on, you've got to call it stick shift. I was so proud of that.

index 16.11.2005 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nvisibl
Yep, sticky shift.

+ Colour LCD for next model.

Hey, colour LCD - what are you talking about?
I didnt mean that - how are they going to program
the colors? ;)

No, fancy LCD graphics in black & gray is what i mean...
And when i talk about inverting the colors as a
sign of Sticky Shift active i meant like gray & black instead. :p

dr. orange 17.11.2005 06:24 AM

concerning the proposal of a coloured LCD display: I definitely prefer black white ones... Probably a bigger one, but generally it's absolutely ok the way it is right now...


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