i'll have both those kanga testes back thanks ten :wink:

No....MINE......MINE MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE! ......hey i just bought dual opteron 250s for ?600, retail is ?1200....bargin!!!! DUAL CPU DAW HERE I COME.......access just release the TI already for fuck sake you complete bastards :lol: look how mental yuove made me go!!!

btw, im keeping the testicles, Pete.

ten

Yup, poop don't fall far from the pig.

hey i3:

i don't want to burst your bubble, but when i was waiting for a micron, GC told me that they had some ordered, they were in the computer, and would be in very shortly.
after a couple weeks, i got tired of waiting and got one from novamusik.
don't necessarily believe it till you see it.

shipping
 

Ive had no problem with special ordering through guitar center. Right at the release of the delta 1010 I got it in 2 days. I was there when ever he called the the guy at GSF and basically back ordered and will be in jan. Guitar Center has already bought enough units for the california demand. The distributor is in santa monica and im only 2 hours away so I dont think I should have a prob on recieving one when shipped. :D

from the access mailing list...

So there you go. :(

that virus TI listed on ebay? well its got 48 bids and its on $750 USD. quite a few from 0 feedback sellers but there looks like a few legit bids on it. man is someone gonna be disappointed when they get sent a box full of air and styrofoam...

item number: 3769838185

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...769838185&rd=1

TI UK Shipping
 

Turnkey now say the TI stuff will be 5th Jan. I have a TI keyboard on order.

I spoke to my friend at Sam Ash and he stated that he just spoke to Access yesterday. Access stated that the order for Sam Ash should be in there store by the second week of Jan. Crossing my fingers.

but realistically...
 

Just had a call from Turnkey = ETA is middle of Jan. I presume they feel the orig 5th Jan date could slip again so are being 'realistic' with the estimates.

i think there are more people speculating about this release than there are on the stock exchange at the moment :roll:

It's been pulled. If it hadn't, dropping a line to eBay would've sorted it. At least some halfwit didn't have to actually pay for it in the end. Gotta keep your eyes and ears open on sites like ebay.

Digital Village have to firstly buy and ship their Virus' from Turnkey. Turnkey have complete monopoly of Virus' in the UK. Turnkey then sub-contract Viruses to other retailers, meaning that the secondary retailers wont make that much money on them so won't drop the prices. Hence customers will either get their Viruses from Turnkey, or if they get it from Digital Village, a wad of it will already have been payed to Turnkey via Digital Village's sub-contract.

I reckon manufacturers should sell to customers directly via their website or the like, like Elektron (of SID Station, MachineDrum, MonoMachine fame) did, and cut out the several chains of middle-men. Access would get a better cut, we'd probably get a better deal, everyone would be happy. :)

Yea, I thought that was the way of things.

Though, I would NEVER buy anything from turnkey. I hear nothing but scare stories about how shit they are and especially customer service and returns. I would of bought it from them if it wasnt for this reputation they have. I would hate to have something wrong with my TI and have to deal with them to get it sorted. Digital village have been outstanding to me on every purchase.

ten

Ten.......dont get me started on Turnkey and their customer service/returns policies.

I litrally got through 5 Virus KC's in the space of 13 months with them. To say it tarnished the magic of owning a Virus is an understatement.

I dont like Turnkey for a number of reasons. First off....you phone them and as soon as you do they play the hard sell game. You cant enquire about anything....without having severe pressure placed on you to commit. Ive even had them tell me how to organise my fucking finances so that I could buy the Virus|Ti. The sales guy suggested to me that I get my parents to buy it as an early xmas present.....to quote him 'thats what I'd get my parents to do'....yeah like shit m8.

Ok, so once youve overcome the hard sell.....what else happens. Well, your likely to get fucked around on delivery times. Sadly my name isnt Neil Tennant...and when I buy things....I get sidelined (along with everyone else). Hmmm so what does this mean? Well.....if Turnkey tell you that there gonna deliver on a Wednesday by 2pm....dont hold your breath. I had several instances when they told me it would be delivered on a Monday....and it didnt turn up till the Friday. Now this is just not on....because I had to take days off work....and when your at home waiting for a delivery its just not fun is it. Yourt constantly listening out for the van...you cant relax.....you cant even take a shit in fear you might miss the delivery and delay things further.

Ok wow....so youve got your beloved instrument at last......oh...but its fucked in some way. Ah thats Turnkey for ya! They really know how to store their goods.....and they handle them sooo well. Ive had Virus KC's sent to me...and I swear to god....its as if one of the warehouse knobs took it home...had a play on it....then repacked it only to shipped later in the week to unsuspecting muppets like me. Ok so your not happy with the condition of the Virus.....sending it back is easy enough....but then you come across a new set of problems. Dont for god sake let the their tech guys open it up.....they obliterated 2 of my virus'. Youve all seen dodgy photos of worn out DX7's on Ebay....well thats what my 2 week old Virus KC looked like by the time Turnkey's tech team had looked at it. They have total disregard for the money you paid on it....they have no respect for your property.

Well anyway....I can forgive a dealer having probs no and again.....a sort of blip in an otherwise professional service. However.....when it happens like three or four times....it does make you wonder what kinda service they are giving to people. Ive heard alot of other pissed off people....so go figure. My advice (and I dont say this lightly)....is to avoid Turnkey for majorly expensive items like big keyboard synths. Thats just my opinion...

DS

Deffo mate. Exactly the type of story Ive heard DOZENS of times from people whove bought from them. Wouldnt touch them with a bardge pole even if it meant waiting another month or longer to get a TI.

I seriously cant understand how they are still going tbh. The staff in the shop are pre-pubescent students who know fuck about music tech, the customer service is a joke, the returns dept is even more of a discrace.

Digital village I highly recommend. Every time I have bought from them they have shipped the item next day without me even paying for next day delivery. Also if something isnt in stock or its due to be released soon they will call you back or email you to tell you when it is.

Ive never had a non-working product from them, so im unsure if there returns dept is any good but Ive only heard a tiny minority of bad stories from DV (which is to be expected from any supplier in any industry) compared to the monumental amount you hear about turdkey.

ten

I'm so glad that I don't have to deal with a place like that.

Does this place basically have your area monopolized?

No not at all, they are just the official UK distributor for Access products. Digital village is probably the biggest and best, sound control is pretty cool to and dolphin music. Whatever turnkey get in digital village will have it before them, apart from Access kit (although DV had virus powercore months before turnkey decided to stock it)

Its such a shame tho, cos turnkey is a nice shop and they do stock a wide range of pretty cool kit. They just need someone up top to take charge and sort the place out.

ten

zzounds.com Has a "more expected date" of 1/7.

Unfortunately zzounds expected dates are completely unreliable. First they had 12/30. Then magically it became 12/17. Then on 12/17 it became 12/30 again. Now it is 1/7.

Zzounds is a decent company but those dates are kind of a con. I've seen the same thing happen with other products that weren't even new releases, just restock of things they already carry.

Access will ship them when they ship then. That's all anybody outside of Access knows.

FULLSTOP.

NO! I want it now! :cry: :cry: :cry:

LMAO....Typical, and absolutely cluelesss :roll:

I always tend to go for Digital Village as I have had no problems in the past with this company and Adam/Sales in Southampton is really helpful...

10/10
:D

:( Univers-sons (France) told me that Acces certainly waits for the winter namm show to introduce the TI .
I guess we won't have the TI before mid february :(

I really Hope to be wrong :(

welcome to virusforum scr...

and i hope you are wrong too :wink:

cheers

blay

Whaaat? I was going to bring it to india, im going 30th of january, and stay until mid summer!! :( pleeeeaze access!

Im checking every day now, for news!!

I bought a Delta 10/10 from DV once.....it was a good experience.....Ill buy the TI from them.

DS

That's what I will be doing my friend :wink:

Well tommorrow is the 7th and I certainly hope that my sales rep. was correct in saying that they will be shipped. I'm assuming thought that he is wrong, we can only hope now.

It wont be tomorrow mate, certainly not in your part of the world...someone would know something already.

ten

LOL I can remember that....you were waiting ages and had read the manual 3 times over by the time it had arrived heheheh

DS :lol:

But now it seems that i will never arrive.

If only we had a final date... but whe have nothing to do but waiting for that day.... that week, that month, that year ?
we don't even know what the fu@@ is goin' on with the test !!!!!
we know nothin' and i guess some of the potential buyers will turn to another machine, like a G2 modular....

Acces should give infos cause our angers is growing up everyday grrrrrrr. :evil:

lol
well well , let's wait ...again...... let's hope. :cry:W

Oh I don think that will happen.

No matter how late it is or even if we dont get any mp3 clips or anything new till its shipped. I dont think anyone would jump ship who is planning on getting the TI. Everyone who knows the virus sound loves it and we know access will get there in the end. Its just a shame whatever jackass at the top is calling the shots cant get it together properly and give us a date, some mp3 clips, some in depth specs and other things we should already have.

ten

we know we're are late and we work hard but we will not compromise our standard just to rush out the TI and make some extra fast $$$. the stability of the OS and all the new components like drivers, plug-ins etc. is more important to us.

best, marc
access music

Marc,
It is one thing to comprimise the standard and rush out the TI. It is another thing to post mp3 samples. I mean is it that hard to post 1 shot samples of the new OSC's, or sounds being created. I dont think so. Surely the OS is stable enough by now to do that.
Also, while I have you paying attention. What happened to customer loyalty. You guys have had a good reputation for it up until now. It has been 2 months, and ^^^^^ this is all we are getting from you. We have faith that Access is working with our best interests in mind, and support you guys. All we ask is for a little bit of support in return. Is that too much to ask?????????

Must be hard to listen to us moaning all of the time -- Internet exists so people can complain over long distances and get porn. I'm sure you don't take this personally. Other than the occasional glitches one would expect, folks here love Access' gear.

Keep up the good work, can't wait for the new stuff.

Marc,
I would also like to add, I dont mind waiting on a quality product. I know companies and coders can run into distribution, coding problems, etc...
All I am saying is just dont keep your faithful user base in the dark about everything. Speculate a release date, post some mp3 examples. Just do something to keep us at bay and I can assure you there wouldnt be as much uproar as there is.

We are like dogs, give us a bone to chew on for awhile and we wont bark! :lol:

Woof, Woof... :lol:

Marc nothing personal to you (even though you have chosen to ignore questions directly to you from me on here and on the access mailing list several times over), and again its not so much that the date has slipped back (I think everyone secretly always knew it would, and most likely always will with future access products). But why on earth can you not give us any more usefull information, pictures of the hardware/software or mp3 teasers?

If the stability of the OS, new componants, drivers and plug-ins are REALLY that far behind so as you cant, then you MUST have known you could not keep the december shipping date ages ago. Which would lead us to believe the rumours that you had alterior motives for announcing the TI early to be true.

You're a good lad, Marc. I love the Virus, its an amazing synth and I know access want to and WILL make a great product when it finally arrives. But this being kept in the dark crap really stinks and you should seriously send word to someone higher up the chain that a lot people are not happy about this at all.

ten

Ist not the fact that we hate to wait.
But we don't know how many time we'll have to wait and its the big diference.
I know that Acces work Hard, but if give us a sort a report of what's goin' , it would be easier to wait :)

scr

Thanks for the update. I'm sure when the TI is released, it will be polished. :)