hypersaw vs. ordinary saw with 8 unison
Hi,
I almost decided to buy a Virus C at ebay instead of a Virus TI. There's only one thing that prevents me from doing it, it's the hypersaw. Is there any difference between the ordinary saw with 8 unison and the hypersaw (with 8 saws)? Could someone record both examples and post it here? That would help me make my decision much... |
1 voice with hypersaw set at 8 saws will only use one note of polyphony. This will also go through the filter section once and will have no unison spread. An 8 voiced unison saw will have 8 single saws going through 8 filters and be spreadable. Tip, to get a phat 8 saw with hypersaw use 2 note unison with 4 saw hypersaw osc and unison spread that.
So I'd say they are pretty similar, yet the only audible difference is that the amount of filter smearing is less on the hypersaw example. IE cleaner. |
You're forgetting the sub + sync part of Hypersaw here, which cannot be emulated very well at all by earlier models.
That and the WAVETABLES!! Hang in there, Doc... |
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I listened to some of them when I was in Z?rich, but somehow they didn't impress me. But I gotta stress that I didn't go through all of them, only a couple randomeously... |
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Any particular usage for Sync with hypersaw sounds?
I usually use sync more on mono sounds than on fat leads. Maybe I'm missing something. |
you can creat some very cool screaming sounds using sync,not just "that" clasic Arp or Prophent 1\5 mono sync lead.
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I guess that with a little creativity you could route an 8 voiced unison saw with no panspread from one output to the input and though the filters for a hypersaw like effect. Worth a try :roll:
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While I can't comment on the TI vs. other Virus models' hypersaw, I own a Roland JP-8000 and the TI completely blows it's "Super Saw" out of the water.
Hell, it blows it off the planet and leaves it someplace past Pluto. |
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Theres alot of harmonic variation in there, but I rarely find any that are useful in a classic VA context in the same way as I find the waves in the KS-Rack useful. The wave tables are very good for doing the standard wave traversal type thing, and messing with the index/sweep you can get alot of timbres out of each. I do like the wave traversal trippy pads you can easily create. I have a feeling that it will take me quite a while to find a new niche with the virus waves. It took a while for me to really get to appreciate them in the KS-Rack and start experimenting with them alot - now I use them alot. |
They definitely take more time to get into than the HyperSaw, but are ultimately more rewarding, IMO.
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Start with 4 to the floor kicks, dial up a hypersaw, select level of abuse, and start banging out those trance stabs :wink: Hypersaw does get alot more interesting when you dont use it as the prominent wave and use it to add background depth/richness to other sounds - IMHO. |
Re: hypersaw vs. ordinary saw with 8 unison
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There are also loads of patch demos at http://www.access-music.de as well. Very nice set from the "bright" and the "dark" side, I remember... Enjoy! :D |
Yeah, that "is that fat enough?"-video ;) I've seen it at least 50 times!
And those demos, I know them par coeur... So I know the hypersaw quite well (the way it sounds), but I don't know how the other "fake" hypersaw sounds (simple saw with 8 unison) |
There is a patch somewhere that is a 'fake' hypersaw. Not as rich, but probably more energy to it and more cutting.
Cant remember the patch name now, will see if I can find it later, something like 3 Saws or similar...? That ring a bell with anyone? |
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hmm, I think it doesn't matter anymore, I decided for a Virus TI nevertheless. It's really frustrating to know that it will probably arrive in not less than two months, but I fell in love with it when I was auditionning it and I don't think that a Virus C would make me feel the same. The TI looks much better, that's the main reason...
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