They definitely take more time to get into than the HyperSaw, but are ultimately more rewarding, IMO.

Yeh well the hypersaw was the main nod to us trance heads :)

Start with 4 to the floor kicks, dial up a hypersaw, select level of abuse, and start banging out those trance stabs :wink:

Hypersaw does get alot more interesting when you dont use it as the prominent wave and use it to add background depth/richness to other sounds - IMHO.

Re: hypersaw vs. ordinary saw with 8 unison
 

There are plenty at http://www.access-music.de and if you watch the news section (same site), Ben Crosland was in an early video at an external site, sonicstate.com if I am not mistaken, where he shows the hyper-saw off (including the sub-osc's). There is a direct link in one of the news items.

There are also loads of patch demos at http://www.access-music.de as well. Very nice set from the "bright" and the "dark" side, I remember...

Enjoy! :D

Yeah, that "is that fat enough?"-video ;) I've seen it at least 50 times!
And those demos, I know them par coeur...

So I know the hypersaw quite well (the way it sounds), but I don't know how the other "fake" hypersaw sounds (simple saw with 8 unison)

There is a patch somewhere that is a 'fake' hypersaw. Not as rich, but probably more energy to it and more cutting.

Cant remember the patch name now, will see if I can find it later, something like 3 Saws or similar...? That ring a bell with anyone?

hmm, wouldn't you save about 20 times of the time by doing that patch on your own instead of searching for it?

Yeh - cant do either right now as aint at home :)

hmm, I think it doesn't matter anymore, I decided for a Virus TI nevertheless. It's really frustrating to know that it will probably arrive in not less than two months, but I fell in love with it when I was auditionning it and I don't think that a Virus C would make me feel the same. The TI looks much better, that's the main reason...