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soundmagus 28.01.2009 05:12 PM

Modulating the Main oscillator with Oscillator 2?
 
Hi all,

can this be done in the TI? I done see oscillator 2 as a matrix modulation option, is there some other way its done?

Many thanks

Mark

Pighood 28.01.2009 05:40 PM

The FM control is *supposed* to act in this manner, but sadly FM is not fully implemented in the Virus. I HOPE this will be addressed in a future update.

Now granted, I'm utterly SPOILED by my Waldorf Q's yeevil FM audio rate modulations.

As of now, the Virus' FM is anemic and just adds a touch of distortion to the overall sound.

soundmagus 28.01.2009 05:53 PM

So does this mean it cant be done then?

Totty 28.01.2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmagus (Post 286383)
So does this mean it cant be done then?

Well it yes you can modulate osc 1 and 2 together, but as Pighood said it isn't the same. It is useful for "dirtying up"the oscillators. It doesn't sound like full FM that can be achieved Waldorf style or in various other synths. Give it a go!

Monobeat 28.01.2009 06:51 PM

Last night the FM and comb filtering on my tiny Blofeld desktop made me sooo happy to be a proud owner of this beautiful little device. It sits sooo nicely with it's dark brother, Mr. Virus.

annikk.exe 28.01.2009 10:59 PM

I'm rather fond of the Virus's noise-based FM. I've so far found less use for the other modes.


-Annikk

Pighood 28.01.2009 11:36 PM

I deg to biffer...

The new distortion algorithms can do essentially what the existing FM control does.

However, giving FM real "teeth," that is, to allow audio rate osc-on-osc FM prOn, would make the Virus into a full blown epidemic, so to speak.

Totty 29.01.2009 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Monobeat (Post 286389)
Last night the FM and comb filtering on my tiny Blofeld desktop made me sooo happy to be a proud owner of this beautiful little device. It sits sooo nicely with it's dark brother, Mr. Virus.

Yes same here, if anyone wants real harsh FM on a budget, the Blofeld is where it's at. Hard as nails sounds. Well mine sits rather nicely with my Polar:D It's a part of my new "minimalist" software setup. Poor old hardware, all boxed in the loft!!

Joey 29.01.2009 04:51 AM

Yeah I really do wish Access had implemented more FM stuff into the virus... but beggars can't be choosers

I think the fact is the virus already offers an amazingly wide range of sounds that you can achieve similar timbres to FM stuff using the wavetables and new distortion and ringmod stuff

obviously you cant create evolving FM pads ala the dx or nord lead 3/wave, but you can create some serious sonic destruction already

it seems we are so infected we just want more virus goodness haha

Pighood 29.01.2009 05:10 AM

Indeedy. Me want MOAR.:shock:

suzzymackenzie 29.01.2009 07:04 AM

There is plenty we can do in terms of poking holes in speaker cones, placing rattly crockery in front of horns, or injecting Dr Sonix special earwax, if you want even more exotic distortion. Why pester those nice Access people for more lavish FM, until we have exhausted regular domestic analog modulation sources?

Talos 29.01.2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Totty (Post 286413)
Yes same here, if anyone wants real harsh FM on a budget, the Blofeld is where it's at.

I would have thought FM on a budget was a DX7 or even better a TX81Z, I just sold a TX for less than £100 squids!

Solid bass, real 4 Operator FM & 8 note poly for under 100, hang on why did I sell mine.

:p

annikk.exe 29.01.2009 09:49 AM

I am so tempted to buy a Blofeld. They are so cheap and look so awesome..

But the Moog Little Phatty also looks extremely cool.

Of course, there's the small detail that I can't afford to buy any more gear until at least May... :P


-Annikk

Totty 29.01.2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talos (Post 286428)
I would have thought FM on a budget was a DX7 or even better a TX81Z, I just sold a TX for less than £100 squids!

Solid bass, real 4 Operator FM & 8 note poly for under 100, hang on why did I sell mine.

:p

Yes, but If you want to filter it, sync it, comb it with wavetables and destroy with sine shapers and clippers then the Blofeld is much better! Still I do sometimes miss my DX100, It did about 3 sounds well, one of them that Solid Bass - Oh man, felt like Detroit Techno all over!

Talos 29.01.2009 01:35 PM

Yeah almost worth keeping one around just for "Lately Bass", we used that to death through the 90's.

I wasn't comparing a DX/TX to anything modern, just saying if you want real FM (for an uber low price) get a real FM synth.
AFAIK there isn't a 4, 6 or 8 operator FM synth in a Blofeld, 2 op FM is bound to sound less interesting.

DX synths are hard to program this is a byproduct of them being very complex machines, having said that my DX7 mk2 is only used as a midi keyboard not for sounds.

Pighood 29.01.2009 02:51 PM

Here's the pisseroni....

There are lots of Reaktor ensembles (free, no less) in the NI user library which have audio rate modulation, and therefore waldorfian giggle factor. Nothing sounds grelpier than an oscillator modulating itself at full audio rate. Just imagine those viruswaves doing a similar thing. :shock:

I needs a cold shower now. :shock:


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